But it makes no sense. The Crew didn't condemn them, only Odo did.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x03 - "Choose to Live"
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Odo is who I meant. I was mistaken in mentioning the whole crew earlier. But my point stands. Odo was selfish and wiped generations from existence.
I get why he did it. In his shoes I might do the same. But that wouldn't make it any less destructive just to save one person.
I get why he did it. In his shoes I might do the same. But that wouldn't make it any less destructive just to save one person.
Indeed.
One would expect of the nuns to have personal stealth tech... or in this case, this one could have acquired the said technology.
Furthermore, the notion SF ships need to lower their shields for transport became outdated even in the 24th century.
They know the frequency of their own shields... meaning the transporter should have been set to that frequency (or frequencies) and just beam the dilithium through shields... so she shouldn't have been given an opportunity to even beam aboard... and like I said... had she been successful, she should have been isolated by forcefields and/or stunned by internal automated defensive systems.
I know SF is not military, but this has more to do with sensible security precautions that should have been implemented.
But... its Disco... it chose to ignore a lot of canonical stuff, make almost no sense of progression (even though its 930 years after the 23rd century) and heck, even created a future where stuff from the past doesn't apparently exist anymore either (in fact, in many ways the 24th century seems even more advanced than the 32nd century in some respects - what with ships use of subspace fields to lower the ships inertial mass [which makes detachment of nacelles utterly unnecessary], sensors that can scan lightyears away in real time... real time comms across thousands of Ly's via MIDAS array... and a bunch of other stuff, transporter inhibitors, internal defensive and offensive systems, etc.).
It would have been more interesting if the Burn resulted in a technological decrease in the 32nd century relative to the 24th, that way the writers could have gone back to the drawing board in terms of deciding what tech they want on the show. That's obviously not the direction they went though given the programmable matter, personal transporters, holo coms, etc. Though they did go that way with the time travel technology at least.
Personally I would have killed the transporter.
The lowering of the shields for transporting isn’t Discovery choosing to ignore previously established canon of technological progression. The previously established canon itself was wildly inconsistent to accommodate the plot of individual episodes, from the beginning.
It has been pointed out repeatedly on this forum recently, with multiple examples cited, that there were instances of shields needing to be lowered, after instances depicted that worked around it, on shows before Discovery.
This is more holding Disocovery to a standard of consistency that none of the series meet, and that TOS doesn’t meet even in isolation as series unto itself.
It has been pointed out repeatedly on this forum recently, with multiple examples cited, that there were instances of shields needing to be lowered, after instances depicted that worked around it, on shows before Discovery.
This is more holding Disocovery to a standard of consistency that none of the series meet, and that TOS doesn’t meet even in isolation as series unto itself.
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That's what made it a great ending though - as great as any "reset button" can be anyway. You have a (future version of a) character we know and love, who is "good" and known for his sense of justice. And he makes a horrible, selfish decision, showing how the passage of time - centuries of regret - have twisted his character.
Oh, it's dramatic and has consequences for sure. It's not a bad episode. But it is an example of Trek ramping up the drama and showing that our heroes can make selfish decisions with unintended consequences for innocent people and that ties into the debate earlier about Trek and being dramatic in its storytelling. Trek isn't afraid to be the drama queen to get a point across.
Depends on how efficient they are.
Gary Seven had an advanced electronic servo tool to escape from the brig and then the Enterprise but it's hard to think of another perceived antagonist who so easily got aboard a starship and had their way. Lazarus, again, was a clearly disturbed humanoid with a mysterious past and shady goals to destroy an evil enemy he said he was pursuing but Kirk and McCoy just let him have free rein aboard the Enterprise until he sabotaged most of an entire deck and stole dilithium crystals, escaping unscathed.
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Klingons with bladed weapons have run amuck.
As in "Day of the Dove(TOS)," though one can say that the Beta XII-A entity was in such close control over the passions of both the Enterprise crew and Klingons that the ship's normal security procedures weren't even a factor during that incident and thus there were no barriers to anyone or anything wreaking havoc.
Not very successful, I might add.
As a secondary/backup weapon, OK
When there is a dampening field active, OK
But not as a primary weapon.
It's the stupid rule of cool.
They transported into ops, and most of the ops crew didn't have their phasers for some reason.
I think I spotted a phaser on Dax at the end.
Sisko and Dax had one, but they got rushed by the Klingons and nobody else did.
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