Yes, exactly! Like the transporters on the Franklin in Star Trek Beyond.
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x05 - "Terror Firma"
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Which Kelvin Timeline Scotty feared using because transporter technology of that era was so unpredictable and the ship was over 100 years old.
Thoron radiation doesn't prevent transporting, but increases the risks of it.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Thoron_radiation
And like many of you had alreayd said, Janeway is a training hologram. She may not necessarily have access to transporters.
8/10.
Points knocked off for Dal here, but it's getting better. Yes, Dal's dickish egotism and weird, random-assed hostility to Gwyn is still in the picture here -- mixed in here with a kind of whiplash effect from a brief interlude of his not being a dick -- but fortunately, they manage to bring him back to a satisfying place where it's possible to root for him and it looks like we'll at least be leaving the worst of the "just leave her to die" sentiment behind now that Gwyn has joined the crew.
Still loving the rest of the characters. Zero is particularly funny in this outing, Rok is adorable as ever, and Gwyn is really cool and comes into her own once she realizes how screwed up her father's priorities are. The reveal about the Protostar is neat, the Diviner's robot enforcer is still scary as hell. Glad to see Hologram Janeway get more to do. Good fun overall.
Still loving the rest of the characters. Zero is particularly funny in this outing, Rok is adorable as ever, and Gwyn is really cool and comes into her own once she realizes how screwed up her father's priorities are. The reveal about the Protostar is neat, the Diviner's robot enforcer is still scary as hell. Glad to see Hologram Janeway get more to do. Good fun overall.
This is in some ways is the most satisfying of all the new Trek series. Except for Dal's behavior in most episodes up until now it's hard to find something to genuinely dislike in this show.
Man, Trek leads can't catch a break from the fans. Mikey, Becky and now Dal. At least we still have Jean-Luc. We still love him, right?
Didn't he die last season? Tough break.
Man, Trek leads can't catch a break from the fans. Mikey, Becky and now Dal. At least we still have Jean-Luc. We still love him, right?
Who are Mikey and Becky?
As for Dal... he was written to START OUT more annoying... however, the writers did say he grows out of that.
Honestly, I didn't mind Dal that much... sure he was a bit annoying overall in regards to saying he doesn't need Janeway's help for example and overall smugness, but his attitude has been toned down in the last episode.
As for Jean-Luc... eh... he's ok. In my opinion, Janeway was better.
I was actually hoping Saru was going to take command of Disco in Season 2... though I didn't mind Pike at all (and I liked him) ... I was just thinking at the time that it was finally time we had an alien as a captain/lead... which he got to do in S3 and the writers didn't quite make him 'shine' in the role.
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Michael Burnham and Beckett Mariner.
Oh.
Well, in fairness, Burnham was doing a bit much in S3 - she was actively put in place to solve a situation when there were characters that were literally better suited for the said tasks (such as Culber would have been better to acompany Adira to Trill's homeworld, and when dealing with the Seed ship, cmmdr. Naan would have been far better choice to convince Dr. Attis to do what had to be done) and too much of a 'I'm doing my own thing regardless'.
Nothing wrong with strong women characters that are independent, but she could have also gone to both Saru and Vance about Booker's capture by the Emerald Chain and the black box which contained data on the Burn - I mean, Vance also expressed a desire to solve the Burn at some point, so from his interactions with Saru and Burnhamn to that point, he definitely seemed like a person who would have authorized her rescue of Booker (And avoided the issue with her reprimand).
Though I do think they toned her down a bit in S4... so, thus far, she hadn't been 'hogging' the limelight from other characters (or at least, wasn't written in such a capacity)... but as Captain, I do have to agree it was inappropriate for her to leave the bridge and go rescue the crew on the station in the first episode of S4.
As for Mariner... I don't have much of an issue with her. I think the main problem some people may have with LD is that the speed of conversation is very fast and Mariner is a big know it all about most of the events we saw in Trek (which is funny in its own way, but also a tad unrealistic that she'd be an ensign for this long)... but, Mariner I think was handled better as a character compared to Burnham and the show allowed other characters to grow... Discovery almost pushed to the side other characters until Season 3 and 4.
I have no issues with Michael, Beckett, Jean Luc, and even Dal.
I see why people are annoyed with him, he’s definitely a grating kid, but I also try to think of him like a real kid, and as an educator and child advocate. His whole life seems to consist of trauma, and he literally has no role models, no examples being show, no lessons being taught, beyond survival in a prison colony.
I think his rough edges are beyond understandable. He’s already showing some growth, and I don’t think he’s been unfair to Gwyn, who used him and betrayed him, and until the end of the newest episode, hadn’t given him reason to believe she would turn on her father, the man who imprisoned him. And he’s shown, beyond his facade/public persona, sensitivity and vulnerability.
He’s a selfish, suspicious, paranoid and egotistical teenage boy, but out of necessity for survival, not out of entitlement or cruelty. Frankly, he has a reason behind his flaws that explain them in a way that most young characters in media today don’t, who’s irritating qualities come from places of unearned arrogance and privilege born out of an attempt to create humor by having tweens and teens act like sitcom/commedia dell'arte stock characters instead of well realized, three dimensional young people.
I think Dal has a whole lot more depth to him than some folks have given him or the writers credit for.
I see why people are annoyed with him, he’s definitely a grating kid, but I also try to think of him like a real kid, and as an educator and child advocate. His whole life seems to consist of trauma, and he literally has no role models, no examples being show, no lessons being taught, beyond survival in a prison colony.
I think his rough edges are beyond understandable. He’s already showing some growth, and I don’t think he’s been unfair to Gwyn, who used him and betrayed him, and until the end of the newest episode, hadn’t given him reason to believe she would turn on her father, the man who imprisoned him. And he’s shown, beyond his facade/public persona, sensitivity and vulnerability.
He’s a selfish, suspicious, paranoid and egotistical teenage boy, but out of necessity for survival, not out of entitlement or cruelty. Frankly, he has a reason behind his flaws that explain them in a way that most young characters in media today don’t, who’s irritating qualities come from places of unearned arrogance and privilege born out of an attempt to create humor by having tweens and teens act like sitcom/commedia dell'arte stock characters instead of well realized, three dimensional young people.
I think Dal has a whole lot more depth to him than some folks have given him or the writers credit for.
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This is the perception I pretty much share with you on Dal.
Pretty much par for the course for how people treat children in general, in my experience.
I would definitely agree.
Ditto. He's been through things most of us can't even imagine *and still has hope*. I think that's amazing.
I mean, this is true of all of them. They all have trauma, they share the tragic penal colony backstory -- where Gwyn was just as much a prisoner as the rest of them, really, and had the dubious benefit of being a means to an end for an abusive father-figure -- they're all trying to survive. They're all quite well-written as various takes on that. None of them are just assholes; not even Gwyn, who is just organically following through the motives they all knew her to have when they kidnapped her.
Dal just happens to be the only one who, after the opening two-parter (where he is a genuinely delightful rough-edged character, flaws and all), is written specifically to be a jerk in multiple ways. This was a specific choice. Of course there are means of justifying it, it's not an incomprehensible choice. It's not "bad writing." It's just not a choice that I particularly enjoyed. I'm glad they seem to be moving past it.
Yes Gwyn is a prisoner as well, but just as much of a prisoner? I don’t think that’s a reasonable characterization of the situation, she held power over all of them in a way that set her apart. It doesn’t make her less of any less of a victim of the Diviner, and she’s had parental abuse and manipulation that the others haven’t had, but as Rok Tahk pointed out to her when she fed Gwyn in the brig, she was not in the same situation they were in.
I would agree with pretty much everything else you said.
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