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Enterprise-J needs to be a mix of the Universe-Class & Congo-Class to look right IMO.
Doug Drexler was so close to a perfect design, but he lacked time to get it right.
Doug Drexler was so close to a perfect design, but he lacked time to get it right.
Interesting visualization of perfect.
It really looks as if it suffered from lack of development time from start to finish. Still not quite sure what to make of the window placements on such a flat-looking saucer.
There are aspects of both sister designs that I like.
They just need to be slightly merged together with various aspects to be perfect to my eyes.
That's just one of the many issues IMO.
Doug Drexler called them "Sky Lights" to the inner city area's that were designed for the ship.
But that's an awful waste of internal space to have a normal metropolitan city inside.
Fascinating.
That is exactly what happened according to Doug. Limited budget for the episode.
Since it was only going to be seen in that episode, there wasn't a lot going towards it.
There were supposed to be exterior shots, but all we ended up getting were those interior scenes and a picture of it on a computer screen in the background.
The TrekYards crew talks with Doug Drexler about the Enterprise-J design that he created.
I always assumed that, in-universe, the reason why the Enterprise-J looks so much like the NX-01 was because starship design had become stagnated by the ongoing war against the Sphere Builders.
Meaning: In that timeline, Starfleet had to funnel so much into the war effort - and was severely depleted because of all the destruction and loss of life - that there was precious little left to devote to starship design. So that's why the Ent-J is just an NX-01 on steroids.
I know there's no onscreen evidence of this, but it's totally going in my headcanon.
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Lots of interesting stuff in that interview with Doug on the E-J. Great interview (although I was irritated by the British guy’s need to continually talk over his guest). A few of the key take-aways:
How sad, thinking what might have been...
- In the 26th century, the English letter “J” might not necessarily mean the same thing as it does in the 22nd-24th centuries, so it may not represent the 10th in the line (although this notion may have been superseded by all the other letter-based postfix letters seen in Disco’s 32nd century fleet).
- Ship’s computational abilities augmented with the neural network provided by the very existence of the ship’s crew itself - that is an amazing concept to me, one that probably should have been explored in Disco’s future. It actually sounds akin to the Borg Collective unimind with all the participants’ minds connected together by a central processor node. Further postulation suggested that the ship itself may be self-aware because of this advanced neural net. We see something of this in Zora.
- Doug felt that, by the 26th century, humanoids would be more like Organians, using their minds and internal energy to defend themselves than from conventional beam weapons that we’re used to seeing.
- Doug thought that early Starfleet ship design should have had more spherical shapes (akin to Daedalus types) but the studio suits thought that was too much of a deviation from the Starfleet look, so they kept the saucer for the NX class.
- The E-J’s mission was universe exploration, a multi-generational city ship, hence the name Universe class.
- E-J’s hull might have been organically grown, as opposed to having been built by conventional means.
- Holodecks will be replaced with direct neural implanted virtual experiences (facilitated by the minds of the people on the ship linked directly into the ship’s computer).
- Shuttles and other small vehicles don’t take up any space in a physical hangar - they’re instantly replicated/materialized on-demand prior to launch.
- Doug predicted a day where starships would have non-connected components, just like what we see in Disco.
How sad, thinking what might have been...
My mom is still mad about no flying cars.
I'm still waiting for my hoverboard.
I'm waiting for more Jaws sequels.
I always assumed that, in-universe, the reason why the Enterprise-J looks so much like the NX-01 was because starship design had become stagnated by the ongoing war against the Sphere Builders.
Meaning: In that timeline, Starfleet had to funnel so much into the war effort - and was severely depleted because of all the destruction and loss of life - that there was precious little left to devote to starship design. So that's why the Ent-J is just an NX-01 on steroids.
I know there's no onscreen evidence of this, but it's totally going in my headcanon.
It’s not headcanon. The Prime universe didn’t have the Sphere Builders encroaching their Expanse from the 22nd century onward. So the Enterprise-J is from an alternate timeline, presumably one in which the basic design of the NX-01 was carried forward to each successive Enterprise until the J.
I don't think the sphere builders started during the 22nd Century in that timeline. Unless the Xindi escaped from the expanse as there were Xindi serving on the Ent-J.
Though the Sphere Builders were the ones that directed them to habitable worlds in ENT, so I guess maybe in the Ent-J's timeline, they made it as far as local space as refugees and were caught up in the formation of the Federation.
Since the Sphere Builders were ultimately defeated in the 22nd century, they would not have then been in a war with the Federation in the 26th century, and the Expanse wouldn’t have expanded to a fifty-thousand light-year span of space, because the Spheres were destroyed. Therefore, what we saw in the 26th century with the Enterprise-J and the war with the Sphere Builders had to have been an alternate future.
Stipulated.
Daniels appeared to see the Battle of Procyon V an important part of history. A history to led to his existence and to the 31st century he know. Because he isn't wiped from existence after Archer & Co defeat the Sphere Builders, certain bits of future history must remain the same.
Taking STO into account, the Sphere Builders try again and drop an Expanse in local space in the 26th century. Captain Dax's Enterprise-J - same overall design, just labelled "NCC-1701-J" instead of "NCC-1701" and with its nameplate flanking the bridge(?) dome instead of sitting on the nose - participates in a new Battle of Procyon V.
Because we have generally little in terms of "future" (now "The Lost Era" 2399-3069) design, I wouldn't want to throw the J out. Plus, STO has brought additional 26th century Federation ships to fill in gaps, and established that classes familiar from the 23rd-24th century remain in service as late as 2769 (e.g. USS Centaur at New Khitomer).
My point is, I'd love to learn more about the "future past" and see ships to fill in the gaps between the Enterprise-E (Enterprise-F to include STO) and Voyager-J.
Daniels appeared to see the Battle of Procyon V an important part of history. A history to led to his existence and to the 31st century he know. Because he isn't wiped from existence after Archer & Co defeat the Sphere Builders, certain bits of future history must remain the same.
Taking STO into account, the Sphere Builders try again and drop an Expanse in local space in the 26th century. Captain Dax's Enterprise-J - same overall design, just labelled "NCC-1701-J" instead of "NCC-1701" and with its nameplate flanking the bridge(?) dome instead of sitting on the nose - participates in a new Battle of Procyon V.
Because we have generally little in terms of "future" (now "The Lost Era" 2399-3069) design, I wouldn't want to throw the J out. Plus, STO has brought additional 26th century Federation ships to fill in gaps, and established that classes familiar from the 23rd-24th century remain in service as late as 2769 (e.g. USS Centaur at New Khitomer).
My point is, I'd love to learn more about the "future past" and see ships to fill in the gaps between the Enterprise-E (Enterprise-F to include STO) and Voyager-J.
Why? It's no more canon than the novels.
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