Seriously, where are the Klingons??

[Roald]

Isn't it weird that all this time in the 32nd century, no mention has been made what the state of the Klingon Empire is at this point?? Either the producers just don't what to do with them, or... they are saving them for a reappearance down the line... Could it be that the anomaly is a Klingon weapon of sorts..??

 

[Lakenheath 72]

In star charts seen in season 3, the former territory of the Klingon Empire is in the Klingon Zone. Qo'noS is the capital of this zone.

 

[StarMan]

Keeping the first two season at a distance? The Klingons haven't exactly been a high point of DISCO's journey.

I'd prefer it if they hadn't eventually joined the Federation.

Perhaps centuries of warmongering and in-fighting finally left them a third-rate, insignificant power by the 32nd century. Or even extinct.

I'd still like Worf to pop up at SF Command - introduce himself to Burnham and co. Absolutely no explanation as to what he's doing there - just like a TNG flick.

 

[Christopher]

I want it to turn out that the Klingons have had a Surak-style awakening and become a society of spiritual pacifists. We're eight centuries past where Trek has been before, but so far the cultural changes we've seen have been minor at best. Let's see some more radical transformations.

 

[fireproof78]

Isn't it weird that all this time in the 32nd century, no mention has been made what the state of the Klingon Empire is at this point??

No.

I think part of the exploration post Burn is reconnecting with a lot of different powers that haven't been touched on. So I see it as s progressive discovery, not an oddity.

 

[1001001]

No.

I think part of the exploration post Burn is reconnecting with a lot of different powers that haven't been touched on. So I see it as s progressive discovery, not an oddity.

Yeah, there'll be plenty of time to find out about them. We've started with the Trill and the Vulcan/Romulan folks.

I'll bet the Klingons will be along at some point.

 

[Dar70]

The show has completely lost what little bearings it had to begin with. So mo surprise about the Klingons. If the producers had done things correctly in the first place we would not have gotten this stupid plot of hurtling them a 1000 years in the future where everything looks pretty much the same as Discovery pre TOS, the Alternate Red Matter("kelvin") universe and Picard...

Stupid and disjointed story telling and aesthetics and any sense of drama is completely exhausted. The producers should have taken a page from Star wars. Which does a much better job of keeping stuff straight. Star Trek has become an increasingly convoluted mess. Smh...

 

[fireproof78]

If the producers had done things correctly in the first place

Define "correctly?" I'm curious what is the most correct way?

 

[Dar70]

Define "correctly?" I'm curious what is the most correct way?

The looks of the show and i dont mean using1960's set. ST: Ent got a lot of flack back in the day for using an Akira based ship and A few other things yet it did a FAR better job of making the show seem a hundred years before Kirk. Discovery at the beginning seems a hundred years after Kirk and than some. They tried to backtrack on a few things (look of the klingons and hologram communications etc) but the damage was done. Its does not and never will feel like an organic extension of what has come before. Unless they say it's an alternate universe or something.

 

[fireproof78]

The looks of the show and i dont mean using1960's set. ST: Ent got a lot of flack back in the day for using an Akira based ship and A few other things yet it did a FAR better job of making the show seem a hundred years before Kirk. Discovery at the beginning seems a hundred years after Kirk and than some. They tried to backtrack on a few things (look of the klingons and hologram communications etc) but the damage was done. Its does not and never will feel like an organic extension of what has come before. Unless they say it's an alternate universe or something.

I guess that is technically correct in the most literal sense possible.

TMP never felt organic and TNG barely did. So I guess this is a problem I was not aware was a problem requiring technical correction. It was something always a part of Trek to me.

 

[jackoverfull]

I suspect that the producers right now want we to forget about the Klingons for a while

 

[fireproof78]

I suspect that the producers right now want we to forget about the Klingons for a while

Based upon what? A billion story possibilities out there and an upcoming Pike series means that focusing on Klingons would feel small universe worse than Lower Decks.

 

[Lord Garth]

I doubt we're going to see Klingons in DSC again until Worf appears in PIC (not a spoiler, just speculation) and the "normal" or "normal"-ish look for the Klingons is re-established. From what I understand, if Worf appears, he'll look like Worf.

 

[Dar70]

I guess that is technically correct in the most literal sense possible.

TMP never felt organic and TNG barely did. So I guess this is a problem I was not aware was a problem requiring technical correction. It was something always a part of Trek to me.

But the difference was those shows/movies were set into the future. Enterprise had there final season using a TOS style sets with updates here and there and it worked.

I'm not saying it needed to be like that. I do like some of the things they updated Phasers,Communicators and even the Bridge of the Enterprise is an ok update. (Though the interior of the Enterprise is far too large)

But they totally ignored where the tech was in Trek in this time period. Again they tried to correct it, like the holographic communications and look of the Klingons, but it comes off as silly and more pandering.

I just wish they would have put more thought into this show. They didnt even try and wanted to make it their own thing. They let their egos stand in the way I guess.....

 

[jackoverfull]

Based upon what? A billion story possibilities out there and an upcoming Pike series means that focusing on Klingons would feel small universe worse than Lower Decks.

based on a hunch. And the fact that the Klingons basically disappeared since the end of season 2, apart from their reintroduction with the TNG look on lower decks.

They’ll probably be on SNW and might appear on Picard if Worf turns up, but I doubt we’ll see them on disco again until those things happen.

 

[fireproof78]

But the difference was those shows/movies were set into the future. Enterprise had there final season using a TOS style sets with updates here and there and it worked.

Mileage will vary on whether that would have worked for a full series. I personally do not think it did, nor would it feel "organic" to use that term again. But, that's me. I don't expect organic feel in Star Trek. TMP and TNG felt like completely different series to me from the jump than what I preferred in TOS.

But they totally ignored where the tech was in Trek in this time period. Again they tried to correct it, like the holographic communications and look of the Klingons, but it comes off as silly and more pandering.

I just wish they would have put more thought into this show. They didnt even try and wanted to make it their own thing. They let their egos stand in the way I guess.....

It wasn't ego, but I'll appreciate you articulating your opinion even if I don't agree. I liked the Klingons, and the aesthetics of DSC as part of exploring the pre-TOS era, especially connecting from Enterprise. It feels thematically similar while letting artists due to their thing.

based on a hunch. And the fact that the Klingons basically disappeared since the end of season 2, apart from their reintroduction with the TNG look on lower decks.

They’ll probably be on SNW and might appear on Picard if Worf turns up, but I doubt we’ll see them on disco again until those things happen.

I'll be curious to see if your hunch is correct. Fascinating.

Personally, I like that there are no Klingons. There is no need for them to appear.

 

[Christopher]

The producers should have taken a page from Star wars.

Star Trek is under no obligation to copy Star Wars, which came along over a decade later. Don't forget, Star Trek completely and utterly reinvented its look in 1979, so it's disingenuous to pretend there's something wrong with it doing it again. Star Wars has always been a franchise defined by nostalgia and homage to the past, so of course its modern productions now homage the franchise's own past. But Star Trek has always been defined by innovation and looking forward, so its aesthetics advance with the era.

 

[Lord Garth]

They’ll probably be on SNW and might appear on Picard if Worf turns up, but I doubt we’ll see them on disco again until those things happen.

PIC will probably be the better one to go by.

I wouldn't be surprised if the smooth-headed Klingons turn up in SNW somehow. I get the impression they really want to make the show look closer to TOS.

 

[fireproof78]

. But Star Trek has always been defined by innovation and looking forward, so its aesthetics advance with the era.

Exactly.

 

[Precious Tritium]

I'm personally sick of the Klingons in all their incarnations, so if DSC wants to focus on some other races for a change, that's fine by me.

As others above have said though, they're probably just figuring out how they want to design them in PIC and then replicate that going forward.