Did Burnham cry??

[ED-209]

Why's that? Everyone seems to be having a little harmless fun. Burnham crying is the shows Tuvik was murdered and Sisko yells a lot and Picard solves everything with a speech and Kirk has sex with every female guest star and or red shirt deaths. It's just one of the shows things people have latched onto.

Because "if you don't like it scroll past" doesn't ring true for some. I have to wonder if on social media they rage on every comment they don't agree with - or if when they're walking about they do the same if they hear a conversation they don't agree with.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Did people complain about Picard speeches?

Back during the run of TNG? Incessantly. Some people never stopped complaining about Picard's speeches.

Nope, we can't have that humanity in Star Trek. Human beings have evolved (insert Picard speech here).

Sorry, the whole "real humans don't talk like that" falls flat for me in a franchise that is known for the Shatner overacting, the Picard speech, Klingons reciting Shakespeare, and on and on.

As opposed to a Picard speech?

Sorry, Trek has never handled rape well and has alluded to genocide before. This is neither new, nor offensive to me in their handling.

The Picard Speech is well known. He even got one in to Nemesis. It wouldn't be Picard with his speech.

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I understand that this is dramatic medium but there is an overemphasis on long drawn out death and speech, rather than what the character would actually be going through.

I know when I watch Discovery only Burnham has good ideas and speeches.

Picard would never give a speech!

It makes Picard's whole first duty to the truth speech fall a little flatter. Ro at least is honest; Riker is vindictive.

Picard gave them a speech.

Cool. I don't want Picard's speeches back. I have those already.

This is just a small sample. I can pull a lot more, but I trust I've made my point. Sorry I had to go for the nuclear option, but you kind of set yourself up for it.

 

[XCV330]

we're not like gazelles..

 

[fireproof78]

Back during the run of TNG? Incessantly. Some people never stopped complaining about Picard's speeches.





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This is just a small sample. I can pull a lot more, but I trust I've made my point. Sorry I had to go for the nuclear option, but you kind of set yourself up for it.

*applauding intensifies.*

I should add that I barely watch TNG in its initial run, and certainly never completed the series. I was more curious if people who did watch it had a similar experience where the speechifying came up every episode like the crying did?

But, it is clear to me that I need new joke material

 

[fireproof78]

agree. I didn't like that part of it. The stuff I liked mostly was how it was a colorblind society. People weren't racist. People were also generally nice and friendly with each other. It really helped me at the time because I was lonely and depressed. It even helps me today along with other shows or music. When your feeling bad and you just want to put something nice on. I also really liked the world building of the show. How it had familiar aliens and how it took time to sort of develop the rules about how the universe worked.

While I can appreciate the positive influence TOS had that similar colorblind attitude. It simply gave us the view of how they got there, rather than TNG stating "We're evolved; why can't you be?"

 

[Jayson1]

Star Trek will never be able to fully explain how they got that positive future because it's likely impossible in real life. I think it works best when looked at in terms of being aspirational. Something that people should try to reach or simply enjoy the fantasy of seeing it happen on the shows.

 

[fireproof78]

Star Trek will never be able to fully explain how they got that positive future because it's likely impossible in real life. I think it works best when looked at in terms of being aspirational. Something that people should try to reach or simply enjoy the fantasy of seeing it happen on the shows.

I would, if it wasn't treated as a bench mark for all of humanity now. "Humans will never reach Star Trek future!" are common cries I see and then demands for humans to behave not like humans. If you want me to aspire give me a way to put it in to action, not just "Oh, that was a nice 44 minute fantasy."

There's a reason why Kirk's line of "We are killers but we are not going to kill today!" carries so much weight for me. It signifies choice.

 

[The Wormhole]

I keep reading about Gene's Vision™,
but nobody's talking about Gene's Dental™,
or Gene's Hearing™,
or Gene's Smell™.

What's up with that?

And why didn't you mention Gene's Touch?
*Double checks and realizes we're not in TNZ*
Oh, I guess that's why.

 

[Maurice]

Kirk was a speech maker too. E plebnista.

It's actually "Ee’d pebnista nordor formor pur fektunun…"

Back during the run of TNG? Incessantly. Some people never stopped complaining about Picard's speeches.





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This is just a small sample. I can pull a lot more, but I trust I've made my point. Sorry I had to go for the nuclear option, but you kind of set yourself up for it.

Man...that's one impressive blast crater.

 

[gblews]

So as a non-American I haven't watched Discovery, but I think we should have a cry watch thread - where we get to know if Burnham cried that week.?

if you’ve never seen DSC, why would this be a concern of yours?

 

[ED-209]

I mean S4, but you already knew that didn't you?

 

[dupersuper]

It seems like it should be,

It does?

 

[Dukhat]

I mean S4, but you already knew that didn't you?

How would he know that if that’s not what you said?

 

[ED-209]

How would he know that if that’s not what you said?

Did Burnham cry is S4 Ep1?[/QUOTE[

 

[Dukhat]

So as a non-American I haven't watched Discovery

Are you not saying here that you haven’t watched the show? Whether that was a typo or not, that’s what he was replying to.

 

[ED-209]

Are you not saying here that you haven’t watched the show? Whether that was a typo or not, that’s what he was replying to.

In the exact same post.

S4 Ep1?

 

[Dukhat]

In the exact same post.

That’s only asking if Burnham cried in that episode. It doesn’t fix your typo about not having watched the show.

 

[ED-209]

That’s only asking if Burnham cried in that episode. It doesn’t fix your typo about not having watched the show.

It’s not a typo, I specified further in the post, do you pass judgment on a book before reading the whole thing? Regardless it’s mind bogglingly obvious what I meant (no one else has had any growth it), you’re just trolling really aren’t you?

 

[Dukhat]

Nope. Just pointing out why @gblews didn’t think you saw the show, and why it would matter to you that Burnham cries if you didn’t.

 

[ED-209]