If star trek starts doing montages set to songs by snow patrol, i'm out.
Why the hate for Disco?
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So embarrassing for you to misspell ‘in’ as ‘out’.
But yeah, not the same in specifics, just in the broad strokes.
As with all things it will depend. I don't think anything is pure black and white, but it is much easier to use sweeping categorical descriptions. See the Kelvin films.
So, I am glad you are the exception to the blanket statement
Whatever happened to the old school Next Gen haters?
Picard gave them a speech.Whatever happened to the old school Next Gen haters?
"It's even worse than Max Headroom" was one reviewers comment in 1987 when TNG first aired and I'm sure if the internet was as prominent and accessible as it is today many TOS fans would've bombarded it with negativity.
Such is life, but I've never understood why folk get so blood-pumpingly angry about it.
and I'm sure if the internet was as prominent and accessible as it is today many TOS fans would've bombarded it with negativity. Such is life, but I've never understood why folk get so blood-pumpingly angry about it.
You have to go several forums down.Whatever happened to the old school Next Gen haters?
But, on a more serious note: this thread from the TNG Forum in 2011 turned the tide. Once you've got Warped9 saying TNG isn't bad, that's when you know it's over.
EDIT: So, using that same metric: In 2041 (assuming TrekBBS still exists), expect someone from here, right now, who hates DSC say he's going to revisit it (it's going to be a "he"). And watch when he says it's not that bad.
One of these "STD Sucks!" people is going to do it. It could even be someone in this very thread. We're watching you.
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"It's even worse than Max Headroom" was one reviewers comment in 1987 when TNG first aired
I rather liked Max Headroom...
This is a pretty good point. TNG especially was very lucky to make it through those first two seasons, and what I hear about ENT is more that it was cancelled just when it was starting to turn around rather than that it was great right off the bat. I found DS9 great and VOY okay from the start, but it’s hard to argue against their having rocky starts.
You're no more of a fan of VOY or ENT than I am. Neither one of us is a huge fan of the UPN Trek series. Which means 20 years ago, we might've actually could've been on the same side.
I think VOY's best season was the fourth. I stopped watching ENT six episodes in, during its run, but this was my impression of it when I binged it in 2010 and again in 2020: ENT was okay during the first season, the second season is -- IMO -- the worst season of Star Trek ever filmed, the third season was better (even though the Xindi Arc was something I couldn't get into until toward the end of it), and the fourth season is the only one I can recommend.
With DSC, the opinion of those who are lukewarm to it -- those who neither like it like I do nor dislike it like you do -- is that the first season was bad, the second season was okay (mainly because of Pike), and the third season is something they prefer because it's no longer a prequel to TOS. That is NOT my opinion, but it's the opinion I've observed.
IMO, I like the third season but I think it could've been a lot more. The second season gradually grew on me. And the first season is my favorite. So, in a very strange way, I agree in that I like earlier Discovery better. But I don't agree about not liking the third season at all. I just like it a bit less. I see more possibility with it, so when it doesn't live up to that, I notice it more acutely.
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That's not the only reason. No matter the reason, the further the time, the more some things will be looked on more foundly.
Personally, I don't care if people watch Discovery decades from now. It's enjoyable for me now, and more Star Trek is coming. Good enough for me.
When can we expect your glowing review of Battlestar Galactica?
I don't know about glowing but I probably could find more good in it now than before, possibly. There's a reason why I used the word "Some" in that sentence.
You could? And yet yesterday:
Yeah, it sounds like your opinion has really softened since it went off the air over a decade ago.
I feel like I'm missing a story here... 
I also haven't watched it since then. So, if I rewatched it I would probably find some good in it. The ship design and uniforms were always appealing, even if the characters were not.
It's not a perfect rule. Just some measure of personal experience seems to soften attitudes over time upon reviewing.
Pretty muted praise. The ship design and uniforms were appealing. Wow.
Maybe you just hate the show and won’t ever change your opinion, which is absolutely fine. Could be that any people who didn’t like it originally and now do don’t represent you. Sort of like how many of the people who hate Discovery aren’t just going to change their opinion in 20 years.
Yup. This is the reason I can get behind there being five different Star Trek series at the same time.
And they'd be even sadder than us if all of new Star Trek ended. They'd lose the source of their rage and would have to find something else to rage about. They'd have to put up ads.
"HELP WANTED: Major Ongoing Sci-Fi/Fantasy Franchise to get Mock-Outraged about. Must have TV Series (several series and films preferred) with at least two decades' experience of existence."
Doctor Who calls up.
Who: "Hi! I was wondering if you could let me know about the status of the job?"
Fan: "We're still interviewing other franchises. We'll let you know."
Who: "I can send you references from more Whovians!"
Fan: "We should have an answer by next week."
Who: "I hope I get it! It would mean the world to me!"
Fan: "We'll call you."
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