Spoilers What If...? discussion thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by The Nth Doctor, Aug 4, 2021.

  1. Commander Troi

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    Oh, that is cool! :techman:

    All kidding aside about his fab voice, he really is a terrific actor. :luvlove:
     
  2. EnderAKH

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    Only she will be played by Lake Bell.;)
     
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  3. Noname Given

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    I laughed during the laugh track bit:
     
  4. Gaith

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    ^ I was already pretty disinterested in the show, but that HT confirms that it's a big skipola for me.

    Once, I was an MCU completist... but then Daredevil S2 sorely tested my patience, and Luke Cage broke it by killing its best character halfway through the first season. And what, was I really going to slog through Iron Fist?

    But then, with the end of the Netflix shows, and their retroactive all-but-explicit erasure from canon, it turned out I was an MCU completist once more! All I had to do was watch each movie and Disney+ show. No problem!

    Annnnd now, with this series, my completist merit badge is being revoked yet again. :p
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    It's real good though.
     
  6. Jayson1

    Jayson1 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I have seen all the MCU stuff except for most of Inhumans. Dropped it like 3 episodes in. Really bad show.
     
  7. Noname Given

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    Yep, same. I just couldn't finish the Inhumans miniseries. (,You know it's bad when they effectively make Medusa effectively bald; and the only character even close to the comics version is the CGI dog, Lockjaw.):crazy:
     
  8. Christopher

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    Lockjaw was the only worthwhile part of the whole thing. And I'm not even a dog person.
     
  9. theenglish

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    I was so disappointed that Inhumans was so poorly done as the characters were some of the first I read in Marvel comics outside of the the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man. They have such a rich mythology that has built around them. Also, the failure of the Inhumans effectively removed AoS significance to the MCU. I really wish that Marvel would give them another chance.
     
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  10. Christopher

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    I don't see that. AoS did far more effective work with the Inhumans than the series of that name did. I don't care if it gets acknowledged in movie continuity. The "significance" of a story is not whether it's consistent with other stories or gets mentioned in other stories. The significance of a story is whether it's a good story. AoS gave us a complete multi-year saga about the Inhumans, and that has value in itself, whether or not it's followed through elsewhere.
     
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  11. theenglish

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    It is just conjecture, but there was a rumor somewhere that Inhumans failure essentially killed any references to Inhumans as existing in the MCU.
     
  12. Noname Given

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    The Inhumans were planned to take the place of the Mutants (since back before the merger 20th Century Fox owned the rights to Marvel mutants/X-Men); and once Disney got the rights the Inhumans plans were dropped.
     
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  13. theenglish

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    That's right. I'd forgotten. At one point, Marvel dropped a lot of X-Men comics in favor of a line of Inhumans comics, correct?
     
  14. Noname Given

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    Not sure. I haven't read a Marvel Comic simce circa 1985 or so. ;) My comics 'heyday was the late 60s-early 80s. :)
     
  15. Christopher

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    I repeat: "AoS gave us a complete multi-year saga about the Inhumans, and that has value in itself, whether or not it's followed through elsewhere." So what if it's now an "alternate" Marvel universe? They're all equally imaginary anyway.

    And hey, there's a multiverse now. Just think of it as a seven-season What If...? episode.
     
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  16. Grendelsbayne

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    At one point, Marvel tried to push the Inhumans and make them a bigger deal, which also included a few stories that were superficially similar to classic x-men stuff. And there was a team that was sort of a combined X-men/Inhumans team, but that was just the flavor of the month (there was also a combined X-Men/Avengers team). A bizarre number of obsessive fans somehow turned this into 'Marvel is replacing the X-Men with the Inhumans' even though the X-Men have always had multiple mainline ongoing books and tons of ongoing spin-off/solo books being published pretty much in an unbroken line all the way back to the early 90s.

    As I understand it, there may be some (nebulously hard to prove) truth to the claims that Marvel/Disney have been reluctant to ok X-Men merchandizing or video games during the period when Fox was in control of the movie rights, but even if that's true it has nothing to do with the comics.
     
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  17. Jayson1

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    Agents of Shields will always be canon to me. I will defended it's place in canon with my head canon until the day that I die.:)
     
  18. theenglish

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    For me it comes down to the probability we will not see those characters again in the MCU. It would have been great to see Coulson return to the movies, Daisy appearing in MCU productions, etc.
     
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  19. Christopher

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    Yes, it would, but that does not invalidate the value of the seven-season series we already got. Very few shows run that long, so we should be glad we got as much as we did.
     
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  20. theenglish

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    I don't think that one opinion negates the other.