Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

[Phoenix219]

One of many, many time travel related things that S2 doesn't even remotely bother to give good explanations for.

I would still love to know the details of the original S2 showrunners plans.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

One of many, many time travel related things that S2 doesn't even remotely bother to give good explanations for.

I would still love to know the details of the original S2 showrunners plans.

Me as well. I'd love to know what their original ideas had been before it changed.

 

[lightspeedbear]

I don't have a problem with crying or showing emotion. I'm a highly-emotional man.

What I have a problem is that the writing often relies on melodrama rather than earning their emotional moments... tears or otherwise. Like Airam's funeral. How can I grieve with the crew when the show did nothing to make me as the viewer care about Airam?

The show uses crying as a means to gain audience sympathy without doing the work to earn that moment for either the characters or the audience.

Well said.

Forced emotion without doing the hard work and earning it are one of the show's biggest problems imo. It's the same with beating us over the head every episode about how much the crew love each other. It just comes across so forced, like many other things on the series.

How about disabling 32nd century Starfleet holograms, tasked with matters of security during a time a crisis, just by blinking at them?

This made me laugh out loud.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I am kind of thinking the whole blinking thing was some kind of joke for the fans or related to something other than Star Trek for nerds to notice

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I really wish they would just do some hand wavey side plot that wiped the Temporal war from the history books.

All of time travel.

That would more than likely involve...............time travel !!!

 

[dupersuper]

I’ve been dying for them to move the show 1k years into the future since Ent went on the air so they could be completely free of canon restrictions. It pretty much worked.

They'd be free of canon restrictions after 200 years (2457). There's no reason the temporal wars would've come up unless they wanted them to.

 

[cooleddie74]

Hell, DSC would have worked better both storywise and aesthetically had they set it in the 25th century and after NEM and VOY. Then you don't have to find a way to explain some of the technology or starship designs and can still have it reference the events of the 23rd century. But bringing Sarek and Amanda into the story concept along with giving Spock an adoptive sister anchored the new series before TOS and that's where so many of the creative problems have been since the beginning.

 

[Photoman15]

They'd be free of canon restrictions after 200 years (2457). There's no reason the temporal wars would've come up unless they wanted them to.

Right... Do you know the Trek fans (here and elsewhere). If they went 200 years and DIDN'T mention the Temporal Wars, you know you'd have a bunch of people complaining that they didn't, whether they liked the TWs or not.

 

[fireproof78]

They'd be free of canon restrictions after 200 years (2457). There's no reason the temporal wars would've come up unless they wanted them to.

Hahaha...oh,wait, you're serious?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

They'd be free of canon restrictions after 200 years (2457). There's no reason the temporal wars would've come up unless they wanted them to.

Oh boy, you don't know Star Trek fans that well do you?

 

[cooleddie74]

Hell, I'D have Daniels show up again if I had the power.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Hell, I'D have Daniels show up again if I had the power.

I half expected that to happen sometime in Discovery in season 3

 

[cooleddie74]

It could still happen. Daniels is a 31st century time traveler who can use his equipment to visit the 32nd.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I am kind of thinking the whole blinking thing was some kind of joke for the fans or related to something other than Star Trek for nerds to notice

There was an episode of Bones where a hacker genius etched notches into a bag of bones, the notches were binary code that were scanned into the computer, where it attacked and crashed the system because the analog notches were a computer virus.

Balls.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

There was an episode of Bones where a hacker genius etched notches into a bag of bones, the notches were binary code that were scanned into the computer, where it attacked and crashed the system because the analog notches were a computer virus.

Balls.

Pure genius if you can etch binary code into an object...... IF

 

[F. King Daniel]

One of many, many time travel related things that S2 doesn't even remotely bother to give good explanations for.

I would still love to know the details of the original S2 showrunners plans.

I'd like some proof that plans actually changed at all, that isn't some "trusted sources" youtube video.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I'd like some proof that plans actually changed at all, that isn't some "trusted sources" youtube video.

Might have been Midnight's Edge or Doomcock

 

[Phoenix219]

Having not watched any of that, I'm pretty sure that the shift was really obvious just while watching it and knowing that the production team had changed - things they were building, mysteries they were seeding, backgrounds references, themes, were completely dropped and the entire plot took a hard right turn..... at least thats how it felt like, while watching it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Having not watched any of that, I'm pretty sure that the shift was really obvious just while watching it and knowing that the production team had changed - things they were building, mysteries they were seeding, backgrounds references, themes, were completely dropped and the entire plot took a hard right turn..... at least thats how it felt like, while watching it.

I distinctly remember Harbert And Berg saying that the second season was going to heavily explore themes of science vs faith. And we did see some hint of that in the early season, but not a hint or a whisper of it after the showrunner change, so I believe it.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I noticed that too but still like season 2 better overall then 1 or 3