Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

[137th Gebirg]

Yes. I’ve been tested numerous times for color blindness by multiple optometrists and always negative. I’ve also been a graphics artist for 30+ years, which would be near-impossible if I couldn’t discern colors reasonably well. My 50-year-old eyesight, however, has been getting mildly dim. Both parents developed cataracts in their 70’s, so maybe that’s got something to do with it.

 

[NCC-73515]

Eaves is colorblind, didn't harm his talents

 

[fireproof78]

I trust we would argue with Eaves as well over colors too, right?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Eaves is colorblind, didn't harm his talents

Which is why I said near-impossible. And most of his artwork I've seen is monochromatic anyway. Most artists don't have the luxury of working with black & white most of their careers.

 

[NCC-73515]

His color paintings are amazing

 

[NCC-73515]

There is an objective way to figure this out...

All of them are pretty blue, but all except one are more green than blue.
Can we agree on them not being red? XD

This could also help solve the TOS uniform wars

 

[cooleddie74]

COME TO ME, SON OF JOR-EL...KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

 

[137th Gebirg]

There is an objective way to figure this out...

All of them are pretty blue, but all except one are more green than blue.
Can we agree on them not being red? XD

This could also help solve the TOS uniform wars

I can definitely accept that they are not red, of course.

In fact, my original (seemingly innocuous at the time) point was that dilithium was varying shades of red/orange/pink and time crystals were blue/green/turquoise/whatever, and that there was a distinct and deliberate change from blue-ish to red-ish crystals, between the 2nd and 3rd season intros, where time crystals were important for season 2 and dilithium was important to season 3. This follows with other intro imagery that were important to the greater plots of each of the three seasons currently on record.

This somehow got blown up and twisted around into (over)analyzing definitions and perceptions of color and what the CG director said (or didn't say) with regard to which crystals were being shown.

 

[Yistaan]

COME TO ME, SON OF JOR-EL...KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!

Well that's not too far off from the actual dialogue Osyraa got. All we were missing was Osyraa putting Kovich live on all subspace frequencies saying--
Kovich: This is your President. On behalf of the Federation, and in the name of the other leaders of the galaxy, with whom I have today consulted, I hereby abdicate all authority and control over the Federation...to Minister Osyraa.

Burnham: Osyraa!

Kovich: Only by strict compliance with all her directions will the lives of innocent billions be spared. [desperately] Burnham! Can you hear me? Burnham! Where—?

(The camera pans to Osyraa as she grabs a microphone)

Osyraa: Who is this "Burnham"?!

Kovich: You'll find out, Osyraa, and when you do —

Osyraa: Come to me, Burham! If you dare. I defy you! Come! Come and kneel before Osyraa! Osyraa!!

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Well that's not too far off from the actual dialogue Osyraa got. All we were missing was Osyraa putting Kovich live on all subspace frequencies saying--
Kovich: This is your President. On behalf of the Federation, and in the name of the other leaders of the galaxy, with whom I have today consulted, I hereby abdicate all authority and control over the Federation...to Minister Osyraa.

Burnham: Osyraa!

Kovich: Only by strict compliance with all her directions will the lives of innocent billions be spared. [desperately] Burnham! Can you hear me? Burnham! Where—?

(The camera pans to Osyraa as she grabs a microphone)

Osyraa: Who is this "Burnham"?!

Kovich: You'll find out, Osyraa, and when you do —

Osyraa: Come to me, Burham! If you dare. I defy you! Come! Come and kneel before Osyraa! Osyraa!!

She was kinda hot

 

[Mudd]

Are we supposed to judge when people cry or give them permission based on what we think is appropriate?

People? No, generally not.

Are we justified in judging writers - their tastes, their skill, their motives - for what they have characters do in a story?

Absolutely.

Serious arguments about events in fiction that proceed from the premise that we're watching actual people with inner lives are obtuse foolishness.

 

[lightspeedbear]

Just watched this for the first time today. The show's reliance of melodrama and forced emotion is really starting to get tedious. Why is this crew so unprofessional? It was nice to see the show attempt a more cerebral type of episode, but it was all pretty superficial. Interesting stuff about the Romulans and Vulcans working together though.

Sadly the whole premise that a 900 year old crew are solving a conundrum that those in the current century can't figure out is incredibly stupid. It'd be like us getting visitors from the year 1200, and giving them free reign in international relations.

 

[Phoenix219]

This show would have worked best with a 200-300 year gap at most; Unfortunately, they decided they had to start after the "last known" Trek future, which thanks to the Temporal Wars and Investigation units and Time Ships, happened to be close to the 1000 year mark.

 

[thribs]

Just watched this for the first time today. The show's reliance of melodrama and forced emotion is really starting to get tedious. Why is this crew so unprofessional? It was nice to see the show attempt a more cerebral type of episode, but it was all pretty superficial. Interesting stuff about the Romulans and Vulcans working together though.

Sadly the whole premise that a 900 year old crew are solving a conundrum that those in the current century can't figure out is incredibly stupid. It'd be like us getting visitors from the year 1200, and giving them free reign in international relations.

I still don’t understand the mother thing myself. She should be in a alternate timeline.

 

[lightspeedbear]

I still don’t understand the mother thing myself. She should be in a alternate timeline.

The show needed someone to see that Burnham was "lost" (for some reason) within 15 seconds of running into them, so she was the vessel for that.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

This show would have worked best with a 200-300 year gap at most; Unfortunately, they decided they had to start after the "last known" Trek future, which thanks to the Temporal Wars and Investigation units and Time Ships, happened to be close to the 1000 year mark.

I really wish they would just do some hand wavey side plot that wiped the Temporal war from the history books.

 

[fireproof78]

I really wish they would just do some hand wavey side plot that wiped the Temporal war from the history books.

All of time travel.

 

[arch101]

This show would have worked best with a 200-300 year gap at most; Unfortunately, they decided they had to start after the "last known" Trek future, which thanks to the Temporal Wars and Investigation units and Time Ships, happened to be close to the 1000 year mark.

I’ve been dying for them to move the show 1k years into the future since Ent went on the air so they could be completely free of canon restrictions. It pretty much worked.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I’ve been dying for them to move the show 1k years into the future since Ent went on the air so they could be completely free of canon restrictions. It pretty much worked.

Agreed.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

So yeah on that Michael's mum became one of those religious order so are we to assume when she rebounded back to the future in season 2 this is exactly where she ended up, what happened to her own timesuit? Was hers busted, or did she fix it? She didn't have the suit on so why would she have rubber banded herself back to the future?