Picard Season 2's Time Travel Will Fix Season 1's Biggest Mistakes

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  1. Jinn

    Jinn Mistress of the Chaotic Energies Rear Admiral

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    Why would Worf think Picard is Sisko anyway? ;)
     
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  2. The Wormhole

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    They're both bald?
     
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  3. Danja

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    I sincerely hope Picard doesn't end up being a mashup of Sliders and Voyager ("I WILL get this crew home!" :rolleyes: )

    Now that Jerry O'Connell is part of the franchise, maybe he can do a cameo! :p
     
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    We are being challenged to reevaluate our definition of life, just as Picard himself learned to do when he met Data.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    Star Trek is not about new life.
     
  6. Dukhat

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    Since I pretty much despise the first season of PIC, a storyline where Q erases it and creates a new reality is A-OK in my book.
     
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  7. Yistaan

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    Considering Star Trek's twitter ( https://twitter.com/startrek/status/1379148587909607427?lang=en ) outright highlighted Q's line "The trial never ends" (of humanity), it seems very possible that Q will restore Picard's human body just to keep Picard relevant to this trial.

    Then again, the average human Fed citizen doesn't have a Q on call to resurrect them from irumodic syndrome, so Q reviving Picard's human body would itself disqualify him from a trial of humanity applicable to the average human so... :shrug:
     
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  8. Dukhat

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    Judging from the second trailer, season 2 isn't so much about focusing on Picard's body as it is about Q changing the timeline in a potentially negative way and Picard needing to do something to put it back to normal. Basically "Tapestry" for an entire season.
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    Ignoring Season 1 pretty much tells me not to take Season 2 seriously in any way shape or form. Q was the first nail of not taking it seriously. So, this season is shaping up to be rather uninspiring TNG level sophistry.
     
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  10. Dukhat

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    It tells me that they learned from their mistakes, like the producers of DSC did after their first season.

    Of course, I won't know if that's actually true until I see season 2.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    It is hitting the biggest reset button in the Trek universe. That's not learning from your mistakes; that's calling a mulligan and expecting people who actually enjoyed it to look the other way.
     
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  12. Dukhat

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    I hate the trope of reset buttons just as much as the next guy. But if it's resetting something that was really crappy to begin with, I'm all for it.
     
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  13. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Agree to disagree. Deal with consequences or don't engage with the story.
     
  14. Dukhat

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    All I'm saying is that if I were given the choice to

    1. Work with what I was given, or

    2. Create something new,

    I'd choose #2.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    Cool. I would too. I would also not write or produce Star Trek.

    I would not recommend working in a franchise with a previously established history, and a season that people may have actually invested in.
     
  16. Dukhat

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    This is not a realistic conversation about our future as Star Trek scriptwriters. This is a fictional what-if scenario about PIC season 2.

    And PIC season 1 was ten episodes, most of which made very little sense. I doubt the investment potential was super high, other than people wanting to see Picard the man again. And since Picard the man/synthetic being will be returning for season 2, it's not like their investment in the man will be wasted.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    As a Star Trek writer then (hypothetically-it isn't worth the heartache or blood pressure) hitting a reset button demonstrates a lack of confidence, both in my capability as a writer, and in the audience. It also assumes a dangerous thing about the audience-that they didn't care. As evidenced daily on this board people do care about a lot of different things, and get invested in rather small things. So, to me, as a writer, I'm going in to it assuming a measure of investment that engages in follow up, however slightly. Resetting the playing field basically says "Doesn't matter whether you liked it or not. I didn't so I'm resetting it."
     
  18. Dukhat

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    But they're not resetting it in a way that completely invalidates what came before. They're using the same characters but in a changed setting. Basically what Abrams did with his films. They're honoring what came before but putting their own spin on it.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    I disagree but time will tell what their spin is. Thus far it does not inspire confidence or sense of them honoring what came before. But, doing the reset would be the most Star Trek thing to do.
     
  20. Llywela

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    None of us has any idea whether season 1 will be ignored or not. All we know is that there will be a new overarching plotline for season 2, which was both obvious and inevitable, because that's how TV works, but that does not preclude picking up dangling threads from season 1 to develop further against that backdrop. Why assume the worst based solely on a teaser trailer? It was designed to pique our interest, not to give away every single plot or character development planned.

    I don't think I will ever understand the negativity of Star Trek fans.