There was a rumor that Patrick wasn't happy with the android body storyline, but a lot of people on this board disregarded it because the website that mentioned it didn't have the best track record (as if that's supposed to be hard proof against everything they say, but oh well). The sudden appearance of Q seems very conspicuous in this regard, but honestly if anyone can undo the android body thing it would be him.So he's the Picard of Theseus now.
He has the memories and spirit/soul/essence of Picard, so for all intents and purposes, he's Picard. No Irrumodic Syndrome, no artificial heart...no wait
The only question is, how much is his new mode of existence going to play into anything story related going forward? Does it even get an occasional mention?
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More like it is easy to disregard. If Q snaps his fingers and all that jazz that fine and well and good. It pretty much undoes one of the more interesting aspects of Season 1 and that is disappointing. But, given the current news around Season 2 I am prepared for much disappointment.
If Sir Patrick Stewart was disappointed then good for him. He's actually in a place to make changes.
the lack of evidence is the reason.
I get where you're coming from, but in a situation like this the only evidence you can get is Patrick making a video and saying "I hate that android body storyline", and well, Patrick's too much of a professional to do something like that...
Well, until I have that I will dismiss it out of hand. 
It does little, if anything, to speculate on it or add to the narrative as presented in Season 1.
It does little, if anything, to speculate on it or add to the narrative as presented in Season 1.
"Lonely Among Us".
He was a ghost in the machine.
Exactly. And you could actually make a far more workable argument that Picard actually dies in this episode and was duplicated than you could for the first season finale of Picard. All of his original biological matter was lost in the nebula and he was recreated through the transporter pattern buffer's memory. Is this really Picard? Or did Picard die and was recreated in a new biological body? If the argument that his original body has been destroyed is all the detractors have, and it seems to be, then this trumps that by 30 years. Otherwise, we would be following a duplicate Picard ever since the early part of the first season.
Also, in this instance, there is no continuation of consciousness. When Picard's new body is created by the transporter pattern buffers memory, he has no memory of his time in energy form. In the case of the Picard season finale, there is clear continuation of consciousness from his original body to the quantum data storage to his new body. It's continuous. What made Jean-Picard Jean-Luc Picard continues without interruption. The vessel that he occupies is of no consequence. If I may cross the franchise streams for a moment, as Yoda once said, "luminous beings are we, not this crude matter".
I would agree with you, and depending on how they handle it you are very possibly correct, but we've seen in Turnabout Intruder, Return to Tomorrow, The Lights of Zetar, The Search for Spock, Lonely Among Us, Schizoid Man, Our Man Bashir, Cathexis and the entire Vulcan culture that consciousnesses can be transferred in Star Trek.
I think it's fantastic. Once Picard has worked through his existential crisis, he should hightail it back to Soong jr and put in for the full "transformer" upgrade. On an away mission and under heavy phase fire? Picard transforms into a mounted phase cannon. Need to make a quick getaway on land? Ha. Picard doesn't need to call in the dune buggy - he IS the dune buggy.
He could also function as an emergency escape pod for the La SIrena crew.
So we haven't seen the real Picard since "Lonely Among Us?" That makes sense. No wonder I never liked the character.
Yup. The lack of biological components has no bearing on the "real" Picard. Star Trek has demonstrated time and again that consciousness is a separate thing from the body. Picard is neither new nor offensive in this approach.
Worf would be like, "You are a copy. A fraud." "They grew you in a test tube like some kind of fungus and programmed you like a machine" "You do not even know what real earl grey tastes like. And you certainly are not the greatest captain of all"
Considering Worf then proceeded to make the last guy he said this to Emperor, I'm pretty sure he'd be chill with robot Picard.
Ooohh, plot twist! Picard becomes Emperor.
An exact organic copy is a completely different animal than a re-creation using some type of cybernetics and machinery, no? And that just goes back to the whole "does the transporter kill you" question, and brings up all sorts of oddities, like why don't they beam every dead redshirt back in the same way, and why did they still have proper memories when using the transporter to de-(re)-age....
Is there really a clear continuation of consciousness? Even if, as styed, consciousness is transferable and in the Trek verse souls are basically fact, do know for sure that this was transferred into the robot, and that it is not just programming/activation making it seem like there was a steady stream of consciousness, while the real soul departed for somewhere else?
Is there really a clear continuation of consciousness? Even if, as styed, consciousness is transferable and in the Trek verse souls are basically fact, do know for sure that this was transferred into the robot, and that it is not just programming/activation making it seem like there was a steady stream of consciousness, while the real soul departed for somewhere else?
I mean, at this point it is pure semantics, any more than the transporter doesn't kill you in the process of moving you from place to place. We have to take it as presented by the authors that this is Picard. If that can't be accepted at the most basic level then the whole thing breaks down, just like the transporter.
And we have seen in The Changeling that Vulcans can touch minds with entirely mechanical life.
Yes the body renews its and most of us is replaced. Except for parts of the brain. We keep throughout our lives. Picard doesnt even have that anymore....
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