Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

Is it just me who find it a little odd that everyone is mad at Lois' dad for designing kryptonite weapons? It is literally the job of the military to find new ways to kill people. Is it okay only when weapons are used against the natives of the Earth?

 

^ I think it's understandable that Clark, Kara, and their loved ones take the Kryptonite thing a little more personally. I mean, in theory, these weapons are designed to kill only two people on Earth, and these are people who are unambiguously "good guys" who have devoted their lives and abilities to helping others. Weapons designed to kill faceless enemies among billions of humans is a pretty abstract thing, but a weapon designed specifically to kill you or your husband or your father hits a bit closer to home.

(Of course, that's putting aside for the sake of argument all the outside Kryptonian-based threats that show up in these stories.)

 

So this image made me laugh:

 

So the Fortress has the technology to burn kryptonite poisoning out of Jordan... but it doesn't have the technology to sedate him first?

I was going to say it a bit rote to have Kyle flake out and get replaced by Jordan for Sarah's rehearsal last week, then have Jordan flake out and get replaced by Kyle this week. But I'll allow it since it was a fakeout -- Kyle's "redemption" had something more sinister behind it. It was an unexpected twist when he turned out to be possessed -- I was expecting it to be Lana.

Ooh, good point. I was wondering if there was any precedent for Jor-El having another son, but if he's from another house, that would suggest something different. Anyone recognize the crest?

Yeah, I thought that might be who he was.

I think the intent of the end of Crisis was that every world was restored (except maybe O.G. Earth-2, which seems to have been replaced by Stargirl's Earth-2); after all, we saw that montage at the end showing the other worlds that had been put back, and there's no reason to doubt that the others were restored as well, since that was the idea, to restore the entire multiverse. They're just not in contact anymore, except for whatever means Irons used to cross over.

Not only that, but it's a weapon targeting a specific minority, and that's deeply problematical even aside from the personal aspect.

On the other hand, there is some merit to the argument that there should be a safeguard against Superman or Supergirl falling under some influence that makes them a threat. In Elseworlds, Kara gave Kate Kane a piece of kryptonite as a safeguard against exactly that, so she saw the value of it. But I guess that's rather different from the military conducting a top-secret weapons program without Superman's knowledge or consent. As with most things, consent makes all the difference.

 

Batman also did it in several continuities.

 

Supergirl, who's that?

 

Yes, which was the basis of the Supergirl/Batwoman exchange in Elseworlds.

And before that, in Crisis on Earth-X, we saw Green Arrow inexplicably in possession of a kryptonite arrowhead, also in anticipation of Supergirl potentially going bad, even though she wasn't even from his universe (yet). Green Arrow was always the Arrowverse's surrogate Batman up until they got permission to actually include Batman (peripherally) in the universe.

 

I suspect Edge's use of "brother" was more in the generic, we're of the same tribe manner. I don't think he's a blood-relative.

I love how in the midsts of all the superhero theatrics, the evil scheming, the episode was basically about parents dealing with a seriously ill child. Of course, the child's lungs were turning into an ice cave but still its just a story about parents and their sick boy.

 

Wouldn't the ice melt then you know, drown him? He didn't cough up any water.

 

I'm just pissed he didn't turn out to be Mephisto.

 

It was John Henry Irons all along!

 

This episode finally cleared up something I had been a little confused on before, the exact relationship between the host body and the "Edge"'s Kryptonian consciousnesses. I had thought it might have been the Kryptonian in complete control, but with the human's memories and pretending to be them, but it's apparently the Edge is just activating the Kryptonian at certain times.
The big reveals with Kyle and Edge were unexpected.
I looked the House of Zod up on the DC Comics Database, and their crest looked like this:
in the comics. Of course they could change it for the show, they used a different design for Krypton, so it doesn't totally rule out Zod, but it's pretty good evidence it's not him. Jax-Ur does seem like a good possibility to me.
We got some good dramatic stuff for Lois and her dad this week.

 

I'm not sure. They told the Kryptonian possessing Emily Phan that it would take a few days for the implantation to take fully, and Kyle was processed around the same time. And Leslie certainly doesn't seem like she has two personalities.

When Edge said he "activated" his assets, I don't think he meant it in the sense of turning on previously dormant Kryptonian personalities, but in the sense of activating a sleeper agent, i.e. giving them their orders to take action.

 

Yeah, I haven't seen a character called "Supergirl" on this show.

 

Oh, OK.

 

There has never been much consistency in Kryptonian family symbols. In the comics or other media. So Edge could be anyone.

Any version of Zod with a big Z on his chest always annoys me! LOL Sure we are to accept that a big S is a Kryptonian symbol but it’s so stylized that seems more plausible. It’s more more about the background negative spaces being alien symbols.

 

I think it was John Byrne who said that as he grew up watching the George Reeves show on TV, he thought the symbol actually was a pair of yellow "goldfish" shapes on a red pentagon. It took him years to figure out it was an "S." So maybe that's the basis for the idea.

 

Was he? Winn said he was in Supermans first two episode Supergirl appearance, but then Lois said he incarcerated him in Crisis.

 

Also, according to the wiki, there's a reference to the Legion battling Zod in the future.

Plus, of course, Winn's claim contradicted several earlier statements in the series that "Superman doesn't kill."

 

So, Superman has an "adopted" brother in the comics, H'el.