Spoilers 31st/32nd Century Ships Revealed

[137th Gebirg]

Excellent list! Although I always wondered why the Kelpians would adopt the Federation three-letter prefix standard for ship naming using "KSF". But, I guess there's already precedent with the "IKV" prefix for Klingon ships in the 24th century, so... I can only assume it's the Universal Translator doing that, but it still seems slightly contrived to me.

 

[Markonian]

That makes sense. In real life, the NATO assigned ship prefixes to other navies even when they didn't have any.
Now we just need to figure out what forces those prefixed ships to also align top-down every time they meet in space.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Excellent list! Although I always wondered why the Kelpians would adopt the Federation three-letter prefix standard for ship naming using "KSF". But, I guess there's already precedent with the "IKV" prefix for Klingon ships in the 24th century, so... I can only assume it's the Universal Translator doing that, but it still seems slightly contrived to me.

There was the "IKS Gr'oth" in the 23rd century, at least per Dax in Trials & Tribble-ations, among several other DS9 episodes.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Ah, yes. I think IKV was the STO version of that. Same core problem, though. I get all the implausible alien-English transliterations all mixed up sometimes, particularly if the UT decides to suddenly experience a region-wide outage whenever the Klingons show up and start bellowing at people in tlhIngan Hol.

 

[fireproof78]

It is possible that they simply became standard over time, or grew up independently. I recently read a study discussing that "mama" and "papa" as names for parents extends across multiple human languages yet some simply developed independently of one another.

 

[DEWLine]

Inspired by Wikipedia's Glossary of Nautical Terms page, I have an idea for "KSF": Kaminar (Space/Science) Foreship.

Forecastle, foredeck, forepeak...

 

[SeamusShameless]

Inspired by Wikipedia's Glossary of Nautical Terms page, I have an idea for "KSF": Kaminar (Space/Science) Foreship.

Forecastle, foredeck, forepeak...

Or, KSF could refer to the organization the ship is affiliated with rather than the ship itself. It could easily stand for Kaminar Science Fellowship.

 

[137th Gebirg]

It is possible that they simply became standard over time, or grew up independently. I recently read a study discussing that "mama" and "papa" as names for parents extends across multiple human languages yet some simply developed independently of one another.

Same thing for "pyramid".
/O\

 

[Markonian]

Or, KSF could refer to the organization the ship is affiliated with rather than the ship itself. It could easily stand for Kaminar Science Fellowship.

Or Kaminar Space Force.

 

[Tuskin38]

Ah, yes. I think IKV was the STO version

STO uses IKS everywhere, except on a single ship from the 23rd Century. Could be a mistake, could be intentional idk.
https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/I.K.V._Quv

The Starfleet Command games used IKV.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

The Gav'Nor is a Cardassian vessel affiliated with the Federation. It might not have the USS and the NCC.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Several species use the three-letter prefix. The Romulans have their IRW and PWB, the Klingons have their IKS and IKC, the Iyaarans had BCD, and there was the list of prefixes seen on the ship list in "Whispers".

 

[Ronald Held]

Are the three letter prefixs due to the UT, or three characters in the appropriate language?

 

[NCC-73515]

In actual Klingon, the letters would be something like tlhwD (tlhIngan wo' Duj) XD

 

[Lakenheath 72]

Probably it's a translation of whatever was being said.

 

[Markonian]

The Gav'Nor is a Cardassian vessel affiliated with the Federation. It might not have the USS and the NCC.

Initially, I thought it might have the common post-war prefixes CDS (Cardassian Defense Ship) or CUV (Cardassian Union Vessel). The novel Wonderlands establishes a Captain Culbreath as commanding officer, indicating the presence of non-Cardassian crew.

 

[RAMA]

A cleaned up Armstrong

 

[Timo]

So there is no 32rd century visual expression for "big guns".

It was fun for TNG to make the big contrast to the TOS movies there, showing that it's the future by turning beads (which might approximate old-fashioned gunbarrels in twin turrets) into strips (which are sheer scifi). Perhaps DSC can still come up with a fancy idea or two?

I like the asymmetry of those window slits. Perhaps one can open a window anywhere one wants, at the push of an interface? Or at least anywhere in those grooves on the surface.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[dupersuper]

Admittedly Trek swings the other way too, with the classic Enterprise being retired after 20 years in STIII

Well, the admiral says 20, but we know it was more like 35 - 40.

 

[Timo]

A refit zero-houring the ship right after TOS would give 20, more or less. And Morrow would definitely go for more.

But brand new ships get retired ITRW: it's all about demand, not supply. If a whole class is showing its age, then a casualty replacement built two years ago can become a grievous misinvestment and is better scrapped to give way for an all-new class and its associated support infrastructure.

Timo Saloniemi