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Chakotay and Seven on Earth

Different pairing have their fans and detractors. Back in my RHYTHM days, I had plenty of people rabidly supported the same pairing we opposed, and were very willing to tell us why we were wrong. Plenty of opposing clubs got made up as well.

I'm not a fan of C/7. I have a soft spot for J/C. If you feel otherwise, that's fine. In the end, neither ship sailed in canon, but there's probably a book/game/alternate reality where it did.
 
Different pairing have their fans and detractors. Back in my RHYTHM days, I had plenty of people rabidly supported the same pairing we opposed, and were very willing to tell us why we were wrong. Plenty of opposing clubs got made up as well.

I'm not a fan of C/7. I have a soft spot for J/C. If you feel otherwise, that's fine. In the end, neither ship sailed in canon, but there's probably a book/game/alternate reality where it did.

I was never a big J/C guy, but I did like Resolutions.
 
I was never a big J/C guy, but I did like Resolutions.

Resolutions was proof positive that not only would they never, ever, ever hookup, but that she would do it with a monkey first as as well.

I like to think that Tuvix put his Katra in Janeway shortly before he surrendered himself an episode earlier.

So that may explain the lack of heterosexual tension?
 
Resolutions was proof positive that not only would they never, ever, ever hookup, but that she would do it with a monkey first as as well.

You're assuming that they didn't. If you assume that the episode was chronologically accurate, we had more than six weeks between the "meaningful hand holding" bit and Voyager's return to the planet. And at that point, things were already pretty steamy. Just because Janeway and Chakotay never talk about what came next doesn't mean nothing happened.
 
Kate and Rob had an affair.

Public knowledge.

It's highly likely during the throws of passion, at least once, that he called her "Captain".
As much as I'd like that last bit to be true (because it throws open endless possibilities such as "Shuttle attempting re-entry!") it was only ever a predictable rumour.
 
You're assuming that they didn't. If you assume that the episode was chronologically accurate, we had more than six weeks between the "meaningful hand holding" bit and Voyager's return to the planet. And at that point, things were already pretty steamy. Just because Janeway and Chakotay never talk about what came next doesn't mean nothing happened.

PreCaretaker Janeway tried to get a bit, but Chuckles turned her down, in Shattered.

That can mean one of two things...

1. He respected how much she established that they had a completely platonic relationship.

2. On the Resolutions planet, they laid into each other hard, and he did not care for it.
 
Well, about 140 options, minus married people. Seven is known to swing both ways, so the whole crew was theoretically an option. Even Janeway was a possibility, since Seven was a civilian.

I'm not sure what alpha-canonical sources you base that on, but even if she is bi, most of the female crew isn't, so that only increases the options by a handful.
 
I'm not sure what alpha-canonical sources you base that on, but even if she is bi, most of the female crew isn't, so that only increases the options by a handful.

Roddenberry said that every one at the academy in the 22nd century was bisexual. It's a hundred years later and maybe that shit is over with as each generation rebels against the sensibilities of the last.
 
Roddenberry said that every one at the academy in the 22nd century was bisexual. It's a hundred years later and maybe that shit is over with as each generation rebels against the sensibilities of the last.

Even if that's true, though no canon material suggest the percentages are any different than they are in 2021 Earth, doesn't change that Seven's choice of Chakotay is based on a very small amount of options.
 
I'm guessing Picard...

Correct. Seven has since been confirmed to be "queer", though that can mean anything other than straight cis. She could be bisexual, bi-curious, lesbian, fluid, whatever. That's why I think LGBTQ is enough: no more letters, no plus signs, just figure that the Q covers whatever.
 
Even if that's true, though no canon material suggest the percentages are any different than they are in 2021 Earth, doesn't change that Seven's choice of Chakotay is based on a very small amount of options.

Have you seen Picard?

With a greater pool to draw upon than 70 eligible men, or Harry Kim... Anika went after a lady.

Although consider the sexual histories that Seven assimilated?

She's been a gay man having sex with gay men.

She's been a lesbian pretending she's almost just barely straight, long enough to get herself a baby.

She's been every gender and orientation of every species banging every other gender and orientation of every species or the same gender orientation and species.

Or at least she has the memories in her head of doing millions of sex acts from tens of thousands of different perspectives.

Smellovision.
 
Ahh, I must have missed that detail in Picard or was that something communicated by producers?

But anyway in her four years on Voyager she had not realized that about herself yet. And even if she did, 5-6% of 70 people adds what, 4 or 5 options?
 
KIM: Seven, I need the data from those last two Astrometric scans.
SEVEN: In a moment.
KIM: That looks like the crew manifest.
SEVEN: The Doctor asked me to pick a suitable candidate.
KIM: For what?
SEVEN: Lesson ten. The first date.
KIM: Your first date?
SEVEN: I've narrowed the list to two crewmen, based on work performance and compatible interests.
KIM: I didn't know you had any interests.
SEVEN: Neither did I, but apparently they include astronomy, quantum mechanics and music.
KIM: I play the clarinet, you know.
SEVEN: You are not one of the candidates, Ensign.
KIM: Oh. Well, maybe I could help you pick Mister Right.
(Up come the details and image of Doug Bronowski.)
SEVEN: Ensign Bronowski, assigned to the Airponics bay. His work record is flawless and he plays the accordion.
KIM: Badly, very badly. He's got no sense of humour.
(Next up, William Chapman.)
SEVEN: Lieutenant Chapman, Structural Engineering.
KIM: Chapman's a nice guy.
SEVEN: We worked together on an away mission. He seemed efficient.

She narrowed it down to two blokes.

Was Chakotay the other one?


Ahh, I must have missed that detail in Picard or was that something communicated by producers?

But anyway in her four years on Voyager she had not realized that about herself yet. And even if she did, 5-6% of 70 people adds what, 4 or 5 options?

She hooked up with Raffi.

Michelle Hurd.

They are holding hands in the final scene.
 
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If they’re trying to communicate proof of intimacy by holding hands, what do they think it’s still the 90s? That’s what they did when they still needed to sneak it by the censors.

I’m not saying that wasn’t their intent if they have confirmed it in interviews, but that’s sure not in-show proof. At most it’s innuendo.
 
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If they’re trying to communicate proof of intimacy by holding hands, what do they think it’s still the 90s? That’s what they did when they still needed to sneak it by the censors.

I’m not saying that wasn’t their intent if they have confirmed it in interviews, but that’s sure not in-show proof. At most it’s innuendo.

Earlier in the episode, they conveyed that a pair of straights were a couple by holding hands.

It's the same.

I launched War against Star Trek Beyond for not trying had enough to define Sulu's sexuality.

A hug?

What a pack of wussies.
 
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