Spoilers Godzilla vs. Kong release thread

Weel, obviously he has seen all the films of all the filmographies of all the directors of all countries of the world, and among these hundreds of thousands of people (but probably millions, really!), he has decided that Snyder is the most pretentious of them all

 

It was a harmless joke, or so I thought. I don't actually care much about either Nolan or Snyder, but they both have obnoxious fanbases who think their movies are much deeper than they actually are. It just amused me that Nolan had this idea that Tenet was going to be what draws everyone back to cinemas and then Snyder fans think Justice League is going to set the world on fire but it turns out that a movie with a simple plot and light-hearted action is what everyone actually wants.

 

I don’t think JL had a wide cinema release. That was always more of a HBO Max thing

 

Let's watch some french or italian art house films from the 70s, and after that we will decide who is the most most pretentious director of all time

 

Anyway...

While GvK does seem to kind of be the natural endpoint of the MonsterVerse--seriously, where else can you go with this after having your two big guns meet and go up against each other?--I do wonder if WB are going to try for a sequel since it seems to be a hit. It's actually doing quite well at the box office, especially in China, and it's already made almost as much money as KotM did, and all during a pandemic. Plus who knows how many HBO Max subscriptions it might have sold?

 

MECHARODAN FROM.... SPACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

 

I don't disagree about Snyder's fanbase, but the behavior of his fanbase doesn't mean the director himself is pretentious. Pretentiousness isn't about how others perceive you, it's about how you present yourself. I think maybe there is a degree of pretentiousness in Snyder's filmmaking, but I'd hardly say he's the most pretentious director ever. He's got generations of steep competition there. People are far too quick to confuse "most prominent in my immediately recent awareness" for "most extreme in all of history," which is deeply solipsistic -- and indeed is quite pretentious in itself.

 

And when people write "THE WORST MOVIE EVER!!!!"?

I... can't... even...

 

Yes, that's pretentious too. It's hard to have intelligent discussions about anything when people on both sides default to hyperbole.

 

I'm still holding out hope for Legendary to get the license for Gamera. It's an extreme longshot, but always a possibility. It would probably make no money, but I'd watch it.

 

Hmm... Could Legendary continue the MonsterVerse without Godzilla and the other Toho kaiju? Say, center it on Monarch, Kong, and other original Titans? Like how Marvel kept using the Dire Wraiths after it lost the Rom license, because it had created the Dire Wraiths instead of licensing them? (I think that also happened with some characters and concepts from Marvel's Godzilla series, for that matter.)

 

And does Legendary want to continue working with WB? After the whole HBOMax thing, I could see them parting ways and making a deal with Netflix.

 

Well, Legendary's still got Pacific Rim, I guess...

 

Ghidorah is one of my all time favorites, too! (accent on the first syllable, please) I hope this isn't the end of the MonsterVerse and we can see him again along with others.

 

So why is it fine for Godzilla to destroy a city while fighting, but not Superman?

 

Because Godzilla is supposed to be an unstoppable force of nature, and often we're in his way. He's neither good nor evil. Superman is supposed to be an unstoppable force of good who will do anything to save lives.

 

It's literally what Godzilla is famous for. It's like asking " Why it is fine in a earthquake movie for the earthquake to destroy a city while earthquaking, but not Superman?"