Hey, I never noticed that before....
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Most likely!
Apparently going all the way back to either Arthur Conan Doyle - or a fictional character named 'Sherlock Holmes'!
I love the ambiguity of that line. You can interpret it either way.
Yes. IRL, it was just early segment weirdness.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness
Another example: Spock saying that Balok was reminiscent of his father, but having no such observation about the Romulan commander. And again, in universe it makes perfect sense. The Balok remark was made-up, and meant to reduce tension by trivializing this fearsome enemy: it's nothing I didn't see as a kid. And the Romulan looking exactly like Spock's real father was hardly something to say in front of Mr. Stiles.
Since what Spock says is:
I would suggest that half of Spock's direct ancestors on Amanda's side, the male ones, in recent generations, married or at least had chiildren with human females.
Certainly all of Amanda's male ancestors within the last few thousand years should have had children with females who were 100 percent Homo sapiens.
Unless, of course, one of those male ancestors married a female descandant of Zana:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/new...ce-suggests-captured-russian-ape-woman-020288
Or possibly a female descendant of the Green Girl:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit
Or possibly a female descendant of the royal family of the Kingdom of Alfheimr:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Álfheimr_(region)
Or possibly a female descendant of Merovech:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovech
Of course some of Amanda's male Homo sapiens ancestors could have married Neanderthals or Denesovians tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago.
You may be over thinking things. An occupational hazard.
It's also possible that full Vulcans/Vulcanians were meant to look much more alien in the early days of TOS. Don't forget how Harry Mudd guessed that Spock was "half-Vulcanian" on sight in "Mudd's Women." It's an odd assumption to make if half-Vulcans look exactly like full Vulcans. So perhaps full Vulcans were intended to look much more like the Balok puppet.
Probably so. But the rethinking of Vulcans gives a splendid twist to the character of Spock, by retroactively making him quite the sarcastic jester.
Speaking of retroactive, its likely that Harry Mudd knows exactly who Spock is when first meeting him. After all, his downfall in his previously documented glorious caper was his failure to do a background check on a member of the Sarek household, and he would have had a decade to regret that failure...
Timo Saloniemi
Speaking of retroactive, its likely that Harry Mudd knows exactly who Spock is when first meeting him. After all, his downfall in his previously documented glorious caper was his failure to do a background check on a member of the Sarek household, and he would have had a decade to regret that failure...
Timo Saloniemi
MUDD: You're part Vulcanian, aren't you.
Maybe Spock is a little pinker than full greenish Vulcans. In any event, it's the ears that give it away.
Probably preferred by the people who want to wear them. I have worn flipflops in non beach related activities.
"It's a Cali thing"---Guy Fieri
As my grandfather always said: "Good enough for government work."
They were heading to the holo-deck that we didn't see until TAS.
Which I'm pretty sure is Rec Room 3. Or at least something as big as the TAS thing would have to be the facility that spans three decks in "Let That Be"...
(Unless, of course, "giant empty hall" was the default simulation on the TAS holodeck.)
TAS is probably the only time the heroes enter a holodeck in their duty wear by choice: even the DSC Klingon-fighting simulation involved Lorca and Tyler grabbing special practice rifles and vests. So donning flip-flops for Rec Deck time sounds right.
Timo Saloniemi
(Unless, of course, "giant empty hall" was the default simulation on the TAS holodeck.)
TAS is probably the only time the heroes enter a holodeck in their duty wear by choice: even the DSC Klingon-fighting simulation involved Lorca and Tyler grabbing special practice rifles and vests. So donning flip-flops for Rec Deck time sounds right.
Timo Saloniemi
I also thought that's just part of Spock's sass. His dry sense of humour. Not telling a lie directly only by implication.
I'm thinking the real reason was TPTB hadn't decided yet.
"Encounter at Farpoint"
"Code of Honor"
"The Big Goodbye" (which would be the first time somebody entered a holodeck dressed for the simulation; but Picard's first visit was in uniform)
"11001001"
"Skin of Evil"
"We'll Always Have Paris"
That's in Season 1 alone.
Watching TOS S1 "The Menagerie Part I", and I guess I never questioned this but I should have:
When Mr Spock sneaks into the starbase computer center to create the faked interaction where he feeds the enterprise the course to Talos IV, and fakes the authorization from Captain Kirk...
Just before Spock cross-circuits the computer system; he neck pictures one technician and leaves him on the floor.
Then in the middle of his communication with the Enterprise; a second technician appears, demands to know what Spock is doing, and Spock subsequently neck pinches him as well, and leaves him on the floor.
Then spot completes the communication and tells the enterprise crew that they'll warp out in one hour.
Two things:
As he's leaving you can't see either technician's bodies on the floor any longer; and also with respect to the situation, I do find it interesting Spock believes that no one will walk into the computer center and find these technicians passed out on the floor for the next hour.
For all of Spock's planning - that last part seems a very dangerous assumption as far as his plan is concerned.
When Mr Spock sneaks into the starbase computer center to create the faked interaction where he feeds the enterprise the course to Talos IV, and fakes the authorization from Captain Kirk...
Just before Spock cross-circuits the computer system; he neck pictures one technician and leaves him on the floor.
Then in the middle of his communication with the Enterprise; a second technician appears, demands to know what Spock is doing, and Spock subsequently neck pinches him as well, and leaves him on the floor.
Then spot completes the communication and tells the enterprise crew that they'll warp out in one hour.
Two things:
As he's leaving you can't see either technician's bodies on the floor any longer; and also with respect to the situation, I do find it interesting Spock believes that no one will walk into the computer center and find these technicians passed out on the floor for the next hour.
For all of Spock's planning - that last part seems a very dangerous assumption as far as his plan is concerned.
