Hey, I never noticed that before....
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You're replying to a person who hasn't been here for 6 years.
Occupational hazard with very old threads!
This is why you look at the date on the post you’re replying to.
You'd also need to click on the poster and then click on their posting history to see when they were last active, since that information is not displayed in the thread.
It's not an impossible task by any stretch, but unless a poster has a strike through their name I don't have a reason to assume they're inactive
You do realize this thread is in the TOS section of the BBS. I don't think I ever saw the TOS heroes enter a holodeck of any kind in TOS season 1.
I thought I'd post these here instead of a movie version of this thread because the one I googled hadn't been used since 2018 and I didn't feel like making a new thread.
I've been watching this film since I was a little kid. I never noticed the tiny spacedock next to the whale probe nor the fire burning on Vulcan. The size of the whale probe blew my mind.
I've been watching this film since I was a little kid. I never noticed the tiny spacedock next to the whale probe nor the fire burning on Vulcan. The size of the whale probe blew my mind.
Technically, it's the TOS/TAS section, and yes, we saw TAS heroes enter the holographic rec. room.You do realize this thread is in the TOS section of the BBS. I don't think I ever saw the TOS heroes enter a holodeck of any kind in TOS season 1.
Out of context it looks like they got shrunk and put in a cardboard box.Technically, it's the TOS/TAS section, and yes, we saw TAS heroes enter the holographic rec. room.
Just how wide is the Enterprise?Technically, it's the TOS/TAS section, and yes, we saw TAS heroes enter the holographic rec. room.
One of the infamous Filmation coloring flubs is there. Uhura is rendered in Chapel's colors in the second frame there, for those who didn't notice it.Technically, it's the TOS/TAS section, and yes, we saw TAS heroes enter the holographic rec. room.
It's not just the width, it's the height, too! My in-universe fix: it is really a smaller room but a hologram is active to make it appear as a big empty room.
When security opens the door, the room appears a little smaller based on the position of McCoy, or maybe he was just closer to the door at that moment. 
(Or maybe it's the camera positioning and lens selection
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In addition it seems like the TAS Holodeck doesn't open up into a corridor but instead some sort of foyer filled will computer equipmentIt's not just the width, it's the height, too! My in-universe fix: it is really a smaller room but a hologram is active to make it appear as a big empty room.
(Or maybe it's the camera positioning and lens selection
This could have been an emergency access hatch and not a primary entrance, though. That hatch could have been in the equipment room for the rec room, next door to it. The primary entrance seems to have been off a corridor, as seen upthread.
edit - However, you can see engineers trying to pry a door, from the outside.
https://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/203-BR/thepracticaljokerhd0338.jpg
No doubt, really, that the intent was that it be the same door. Unlikely (given all production factors) that the intent was that they gave up and tried another way in. It's far more likely that there is indeed a production error somewhere. Oh, well.
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I'm really good at reverse-engineering perspective drawings, so here ya go.Technically, it's the TOS/TAS section, and yes, we saw TAS heroes enter the holographic rec. room.
If we assume Bones in his cuban heels is 6' tall, we can see that, at minimum, the room is
- ~64' wide
- ~26' high
- at least 80' deep
If (big if) the back wall is exactly below the "camera" the console is center centered on the deep axis and juts sliiiiightly off to one side of the width center.
EDIT: Had a minor error so replaced the image with a fix.
- CYAN lines find the center of the room
- LIGHT GRAY lines = 1 Bones' height
- PURPLE lines find the centerline of the narrower wall
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The problem with the idea of the holographic room being smaller than portrayed is then where in the POV in that downshot? In fact, for the "camera" to be where it appears, if the room were "real" and not a film set with wild walls, it would be over 50 feet high. In my breakdown I just assumed the walls are wild like on TOS so the camera can be outside the "set" and defined its minimum boundaries only by what appears in frame.It's not just the width, it's the height, too! My in-universe fix: it is really a smaller room but a hologram is active to make it appear as a big empty room.
(Or maybe it's the camera positioning and lens selection
As to the door, what we see looking out doesn't quote match what we see from outside, but then... Filmation Quality™!
Well, it may indeed (as it were) be that the room does not have the dimensions that it appears to in the shot analyzed with vanishing points. The blank cube could just be a default pattern, to indicate that the holographic projectors are on, working, and able to render images that exceed the room's actual dimensions. I'd never assumed that was intended, but....
