Spoilers Season Two Anticipation Thread
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It doesn't need to fit, the franchise has shown before that multiple uniforms can be in use at the same time.
There never was a uniform that didn't have its own time window and only existed parallel to others.
The DS9/VOY Uniform overlapped with the TNG Uniform.
100% of the time?
Discovery featured both the "Federation Blues" and the "New Uniforms" of the Enterprise (that really weren't that new) at the same time.
Star Trek Generations showed us the crew of the Enterprise wearing two different concurrent uniform designs, the DS9 jumpsuit and the classic TNG design.
From TNG Season 3 to about 5, the first two season uniforms were relegated to background cast who still roamed the corridors.
In TOS "Charlie X", the crew of the Enterprise greet two officers from the Antares who are wearing uniforms previously seen in the two pilots.
Those pilot uniforms can be seen on extras in the Man Trap too, I believe.
again, all of those had their separate times and we only saw both of them together during the transitional phases. before them, it was only the old one, after them, it was only the new one. is it that complicated?
I don't know if we ever had that phase with the DS9/VOY jumpsuit. We always saw it in conjunction with the TNG ones and the gray ones. So, I don't see the issue with there being a problem with uniforms remaining in service at the same time. I don't think we have all uniforms going in those transitional phases all the time.again, all of those had their separate times and we only saw both of them together during the transitional phases. before them, it was only the old one, after them, it was only the new one. is it that complicated?
I think it is as simple that it's a side of Starfleet we haven't seen before. Which is Lower Decks whole conceit.
again, all of those had their separate times and we only saw both of them together during the transitional phases. before them, it was only the old one, after them, it was only the new one. is it that complicated?
Yes. I don't see where the LD uniform isn't treated as a transitional uniform, in the same manner as before. We've never had a firm date on any uniform style, and there are many styles with several apparent years of overlap. The New Uniforms of Discovery are being used from 2254 to 2258, alongside the Federation Blues from 2239 to 2258.
The DS9 jumpsuit is being used from 2369 to 2373 (and possibly as early as 2366 on some installations), alongside the TNG high collar of 2366 to 2373.
The LD uniform exists from apparently 2379 to 2380, alongside the FC uniform from 2373 to 2380, and one or the other may be succeeded by the Picard flashback uniform of 2381 to 2386 (if that's not a third concurrent style).
Everything I see seems to indicate a long pattern of Starfleet generally operating two concurrent fashions at any given time. Four years is a long time for "transitional phases", and we only see LD uniforms in use for two.
As far as we've seen, the ENT uniforms were the sole versions in their time, the DIS uniforms were the sole versions in the 2240s and early 50s, the TOS ones were the only ones in the 2260s, TMP ones lasted for just a brief time in the 2270s, but were the only ones during that time, the WoK-TUC ones were the only ones with no known other parallel types for 70 years, the TNG ones were the only ones in the 2360s, the VOY ones were the only ones from about 2371-2373, the FC ones were the sole versions from 2373-79, the LDS ones could have been the only ones in 2381, the PIC flashback ones then replaced them in the 2380s, and the PIC ones were the only ones seen in the 2390s.
Show me a uniform that only existed parallel to others and never by itself.
Show me a uniform that only existed parallel to others and never by itself.
Star Trek Beyond's Franklin unis muddy that up a bit.
We see they're comcurrent with the FC unis in 2380, who's to say when they first came into use? Haven't seen a "second contact" ship before Lower Decks.
I genuinely don't think the VOY ones were the only ones. They always seemed to be crossed over with the TNG ones and then in to the gray ones.
And it isn't like there isn't room for there to be uniforms existing side by side in Star Trek. In fact, a sole uniform is one of the more unbelievable facets of Trek's worldbuilding.
And it isn't like there isn't room for there to be uniforms existing side by side in Star Trek. In fact, a sole uniform is one of the more unbelievable facets of Trek's worldbuilding.
Were the Franklins ever seen in the 2250s? Mid 2160s to early 2230s is a long time, don't you think?
Why is this about "when they first came into use"? It's about uniforms overlapping during transitions, but not between transitions (as mentioned several times now).
Well, no. The TNG uniforms were still being worn in that time period. Indeed, the TNG uniforms were still seen being worn even after the gray FC uniforms were introduced, with the last time we see the TNG uniforms being DS9 Tears of the Prophets, the season 6 finale.
Nice to know my memory isn't completely gone.
Is that the only scene? Do you have any non-background running-out-of-costumes examples?
Homefront was 2372, and showed that the TNG ones were in use at HQ only by then.
Y'all do realize that my post was that the LDS ones can fit, right? XD
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Of TNG uniforms during the gray FC uniform era? That happened quite a bit, but okay that was only with background characters. However, the TNG uniforms being worn with the DS9/Voyager uniforms certainly happened quite a bit with speaking roles. I mean, hell, Sisko himself switched back to a TNG uniform in Homefront and Paradise Lost. This scene certainly didn't involve any background players.Is that the only scene? Do you have any non-background running-out-of-costumes examples?
Homefront was 2372, and showed that the TNG ones were in use at HQ only by then.
you do read what you respond to, right...? XD
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