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Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

David cgc is correct. The stones didn't have to go back to the exact same place and serve the exact same purpose as they did in the original timeline, they just had to go back to the exact time in which they were taken from to ensure the continuity of the new timeline.

The problem is that they can't do that.

If you can't travel into your own past, then you can't travel into anyone's past.

Every time you time travel backwards, you create a new timeline

So there's an Ancient One in a 2012 who is given her Infinity Stone back, and an Ancient One in 2012 who is still waiting for the Hulk to give her one.

Question is, do you create a new timeline when you travel forwards to the present too?
 
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Finally, an episode that didn't make me want to break my TV. It still wasn't funny, but we got actual plot development. Neighbors acting suspiciously, one woman getting ejected into the real world outside of the town which apparently is a real town based on the fact that it has a sign in the real world. This is more of what I expected from episode 1, sitcom stuff but with consistent "something isn't right" vibes throughout the episode. It does help that this form of sitcom is less awful then the 50s stuff, but it was having the weird reality stuff all through the episode that made me actually interested and kept my attention. This is what I wanted to see in the show, and we're finally getting it. I can put up with bad sitcom stuff if its just part of the mystery of the show and not the whole focus, and this was the first episode to start to get that right, in my opinion.

If they were only going to drop the smallest of crumbs and hints each episode, it might have started to grow tiresome. This time round didn't hold my attention as much as the first two - or at least up until they gave us some further insight into what's going on. I liked the abrupt tonal shift to 'creepy'.

It might have been the setting? 70's sitcoms (Brady / Partridge) where never my thing.

Looking forward to hitting 80's territory. I don't know what they'll be based on. Can we have a Cheers episode?
 
I think they really are trying to do something like The Truman Show mixed in with the Agents of Shield format for the first half of the final season with this series. Those last 10 minutes was the most interesting 10 minutes of the series so far.
 
I loved how they shifted the aspect ratio at the end, with the picture slowly opening up, instead of just cutting from one to the other.
It might have been the setting? 70's sitcoms (Brady / Partridge) where never my thing.

Looking forward to hitting 80's territory. I don't know what they'll be based on. Can we have a Cheers episode?
I'm not sure what their '80s inspirations are, most of the specific shows I've seen referenced have been the earlier shows like Bewitched and Dick Van Dyke, and newer stuff like The Office or Modern Family. I have seen some references to Full House, but I'm not sure if those were from the people involved with the show, or the writers from the sites I go to guessing about what we'll see.
 
It's unintentional but the sort of threat, "normal" people in a weird house, feels little like Sapphire and Steel.

Paul's 70's hair is repellent.

How did men get laid back then looking like that?
 
This is feeling more and more like "Fantasy created by Wanda to deny to herself Vision is gone".

This seems like it's the sort of thing that would work for a short arc but may wear out its welcome if more story progress isn't made. Like, worldbuilding is great, but world built. Now progress it some.
 
I loved how they shifted the aspect ratio at the end, with the picture slowly opening up, instead of just cutting from one to the other.

I'm not sure what their '80s inspirations are, most of the specific shows I've seen referenced have been the earlier shows like Bewitched and Dick Van Dyke, and newer stuff like The Office or Modern Family. I have seen some references to Full House, but I'm not sure if those were from the people involved with the show, or the writers from the sites I go to guessing about what we'll see.
Apparently, Kevin Feige didn't make the connection between Mary Kate and Ashley and Elizabeth in the context of sitcoms and what they were trying to accomplish with WandaVision until they were watching old episodes of Full House in the writers room.
 
Oh shit, I completely forgot about that. I wonder if she went to her sisters for any kind of advice about acting in sitcoms?
It looks like their is some kind of bigger conflict that comes to play at the end. In one of the trailer Wanda talks about how Westview is their home and they need to fit for it. I've been wondering if that's just because S.W.O.R.D is trying to stop whatever she's doing to create all of that, or if there's another bad guy group, like HYDRA or someone along those lines, coming after her for some other more nefarious reason.
 
I think there's something much deeper than Wanda or Hydra or SWORD at play. Like Mephisto or Nightmare deep. After all, this is supposed to lead into the second Doctor Strange movie.
 
Anyway, what I really came in here to say was that I can't believe the show has Debra Jo Rupp in its supporting cast and they didn't include her in the episode set in the 70s.
I imagine that was a deliberate choice (or even a request on her part) so not to draw the obvious comparison.
 
It might have been the setting? 70's sitcoms (Brady / Partridge) where never my thing.
All in the Family? Happy Days? Mary Tyler Moore? Taxi? WKRP?
To each their own, but there were iconic shows in the 70s . If you want to peg WandaVision, they are focusing on an idyllic suburban lifestyle that never really existed in the real world. Think about what "Pleasant Valley Sunday" is actually saying. There's a point to that, it's what Wanda never had, never could have had, because it only existed in the box.
 
I think there's something much deeper than Wanda or Hydra or SWORD at play. Like Mephisto or Nightmare deep. After all, this is supposed to lead into the second Doctor Strange movie.
That's an interesting idea, and would be a nice final episode twist. It seems pretty much a fact at this point that Wanda is controlling things, but there's always a chance someone has manipulated her into doing all of this.
 
Oh shit, I completely forgot about that. I wonder if she went to her sisters for any kind of advice about acting in sitcoms?
It looks like their is some kind of bigger conflict that comes to play at the end. In one of the trailer Wanda talks about how Westview is their home and they need to fit for it. I've been wondering if that's just because S.W.O.R.D is trying to stop whatever she's doing to create all of that, or if there's another bad guy group, like HYDRA or someone along those lines, coming after her for some other more nefarious reason.
Uhm, would she have gotten any advice beyond “don’t shit your diapers and get a good sleep while your sister is shooting a scene instead of you”?
Do the twins have actual sitcom experience beyond the age of 2?
 
That's an interesting idea, and would be a nice final episode twist. It seems pretty much a fact at this point that Wanda is controlling things, but there's always a chance someone has manipulated her into doing all of this.
Well, Nightmare is the rumored villain for Doctor Strange 2, and as for Mephisto... well, he has a very personal connection to Tommy and Billy. Namely, they are created out of pieces of his soul. I think Tommy and Billy are the point of all of this. In the first episode, the cover of the magazine Agnes was reading spoke of a child's first words. In the second episode, the whole theme of the talent show was that it was "for the children". Said in that cult like monotone. Here's the thing... we haven't seen any children. And then Wanda's spontanious pregnancy?

I think whatever's out there doing this to Wanda needs her and her abilities to create these children for its / his / hers own diabolical means. Of course, Wanda ain't going to have any of it.

 
Do the twins have actual sitcom experience beyond the age of 2?

Mary Kate did a stint on Weeds. I honestly can't remember seeing too much of them after Full House ended.

I think there's something much deeper than Wanda or Hydra or SWORD at play. Like Mephisto or Nightmare deep. After all, this is supposed to lead into the second Doctor Strange movie.

The lead in could just be Wanda wanting to learn more about (and more about controlling) her powers, particularly now that they seem to have blossomed in a really significant way, and turning to Strange to accomplish that. There certainly could be some kind of big bad tie in, but there doesn't need to be. And even if they want to tie it together in that way, it doesn't require the villain to be responsible for things here. Example: Nightmare spends Doctor Strange 2 hunting Wanda for her powers, and this is referenced as the incident that brought her to his attention.

So far there are definite shades of House of M, or maybe something like a Pleasant Hill, mixed in with Wanda & Vision as our base for inspiration. I'm wondering if we'll go more fully Pleasant Hill, but with Wanda in the Kobik role, and even if we might lean hard into the House of M stuff and have this turn out to be some kind of plot to rid the world of superpowers. "No More Avengers," as it were. Though giving Wanda the agency to actually overcome and not be used as a weapon this time.

There are still myriad possibilities on the table. Plenty of avenues to explore, or potential villains afoot. This has been such a fun ride so far, I'm quite curious to see what angles they play as it continues.
 
The lead in could just be Wanda wanting to learn more about (and more about controlling) her powers, particularly now that they seem to have blossomed in a really significant way, and turning to Strange to accomplish that. There certainly could be some kind of big bad tie in, but there doesn't need to be. And even if they want to tie it together in that way, it doesn't require the villain to be responsible for things here. Example: Nightmare spends Doctor Strange 2 hunting Wanda for her powers, and this is referenced as the incident that brought her to his attention.
Personally, I think it's somehow "whomever" (SWORD, SHIELD, Hydra) has put her in this situation to get what they want. Well, I don't see that working out for them, but Wanda may end up resurrecting Vision, which opens things in future shows for them both to go forward.
Just guesswork, whatever happens I'm happy to go along for the ride.
 
Another great one. The last few minutes gave me chills at one point.

Things are beginning to unravel for Wanda. Lots if hilarious moments peppered throughout again to keep up appearances.

Vision's hair! :lol:
 
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