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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x13 - "That Hope Is You, Part 2"

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I am surprised Book survived as the actor is supposedly not in the 4th season. But I guess he will be there in the first episode. More importantly Grudge survived and is really a cat.
I thought he said he was only signed on for the third season. And he said that before the fourth season was officially greenlit. So it's possible he was only signed on for the third, then signed on for the fourth. That's what I think most likely happened.
 
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Discovery took inspiration from this for their turbolift scene:
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There's a Star Trek Facebook Group that's all about Fat Shaming Tilly and Mary Wiseman with memes. It's probably the worst Star Trek Group on Facebook and I'm including any Group that says "TATV...(ENT)" wasn't that bad. ;)
 
Saru is the only Kelpian Su'Kal currently knows, so it makes sense for Saru to not want to break the bond he just made with Su'Kal as that might send Su'Kal into an emotional tailspin. And Su'Kal will have to make an adjustment to being around so many people.

And Tilly. I said right from "Unification III" she shouldn't be First Officer. It's going to be a permanent thing now it looks like, so she'll grow into the role, so she's still too green to be Captain.

Burnham's out-of-the-box, take-charge, think-on-your-feet approach is what got Discovery out of the mess it was in. And it made Vance wake up. I didn't think he'd ever consider making Burnham a Captain, but I'm glad he finally saw that they need someone in command of Discovery who takes initiative. Burnham made for a lousy First Officer, but she'll make for a good Captain. Much like how Theodore Roosevelt found being Vice President was limiting but thrived as actual President.
 
Not sure you understand what a plot is.
I’m surely not going to understand what it is by watching this episode, though.

The best part of the episode, and something I heartily approve of, is that they got past the will she/won't she stage with this flirtation of Burnham with captainhood. A traditional Trek show with a traditional crew structure should have the CO be the main character.
Wait, they can still demote her first thing next season!

Not just a fleet, but a fleet and a starbase.

Both of which were trying to destroy it.

Remember how that went back in the days of DS9? The station could literally one shot starships.
And starships that were not several hundreds years old!
The premise is good
the premise changed how many times now?

I greatly enjoyed the character work with Saru and Su'kal. Both actors did an amazing job.
Agreed. In retrospect, I think they might have done better by leaving Burnham on the ship a couple of episodes ago: her character-bonding scenes were pointless and might have worked better giving them to Saru.
As well as the moments where Gray was made manifest and could be seen.
it was pretty obvious it would happen, though. Now I don’t think it makes sense that they will “try” to find a way to let him be visible: the holodeck on that ship isn’t supposed to be special, so any holodeck should be able to give him a body.

This felt a LOT like a series finale. I'll be curious what they do if they bring the show back for a fourth season.
True. They will bring the show back, though: they’re filming season 4 already.

Random Treknobabble quibble: what is the point of the separated warp nacelles if they reattach to the ship every time it goes to warp or spore jumps?
do they reattach for warp too? Here it goes my theory...

What exactly was Osyraa planing to do with the pestisde. She mentioned shrapnel was the plan really to cause shrapnel ?
She forgot about ship having shields and pressurization, apparently.

As much as I hate Saru not being Captain, I can't see a better end for his character. I want him back, but will kind of hate it if he comes back, but not really
He’s coming back: Michael says he will while talking with Vance.
I'm not sure what Osyraa's plan here is. Discovery is a sitting duck.
Plan? Who needs a plan when you are green?
The HQ is going to pursue? Awesome
i anticipated the HQ being a huge, fleet-containing, ship in the interstellar void way back after episode 3 ;)

Regulator combadges can get destroyed by a boot step. Pretty fragile stuff.
as Starfleet’s: Georgiu crushes one in episode 5.
 
This is the first time a Trek series has had a genuinely satisfying season finale(not counting LD) since ENT Season 3. That's almost seventeen years.
i see what you did here. Neat.

is really a cat.
or so she wants us to believe.

And Tilly. I said right from "Unification III" she shouldn't be First Officer. It's going to be a permanent thing now it looks like, so she'll grow into the role,
Unless Saru becomes first officer when he comes back.
 
I know Ossyra being the leader of the Emerald Chain was a deal breaker for Vance, so perhaps with her gone, the Emerald Chain will join the Federation?
Vance wanted the Federation to join the Chain ;)

Since Adira seems to have received an official Starfleet comission as well, does that mean Earth rejoined the Federation too?
They probably count as a Trill

So you're saying it's Star Trek?
name other typical or good episodes featuring that level of nonsense.
 
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Unless Saru becomes first officer when he comes back.
They could do that, but I wouldn't be too thrilled with it. That would be demoting Saru even though he didn't do anything wrong. I think it makes complete and total sense that he'd want to leave Discovery to help Su'Kal. If he left for any other reason, I'd think it would've been dumb. This made sense.

I think what I'd like to see is Saru working at Starfleet Command, directly under Vance, if he returns to Starfleet. Vance is the boss they report to every week, and he's in every episode. So if Saru works for Vance, we'd probably see him every week too. It would be like Starfleet Command is like Deep Space Nine and the Discovery is like the Defiant.

Technically, Discovery can just stay at Starfleet Command -- like it has been -- and just spore jump to whatever planet Vance sends it to. "Here's where we want you to deliver dilithium today!" "Here's who we want you to communicate with tomorrow!"

More importantly though, I think the issue of "Who's Captain of Discovery?" should be put to bed once and for all. Burnham is Captain. A lot of us thought it would eventually end up that way anyway. So let's leave it like that, now that it is. Don't change it now.
 
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It's a pretty big cavern. Next season will feature a sub-plot called Zareh's Arduous Journey, which will feature Zareh's trek to escape the turboshaft, and the many friends and conflicts he meets along the way. Spoiler: He isn't the first villain or hero to get lost in Discovery's turbolift system. This will be a multi-episode arc, and likely continue over several seasons.
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They could do that, but I wouldn't be too thrilled with it. That would be demoting Saru even though he didn't do anything wrong. I think it makes complete and total sense that he'd want to leave Discovery to help Su'Kal. If he left for any other reason, I'd think it would've been dumb. This made sense.
Burnham said he will come back, so if he stays on discovery it will feel like a demotion, no matter the role.
I think what I'd like to see is Saru working at Starfleet Command, directly under Vance, if he returns to Starfleet. Vance is the boss they report to every week, and he's in every episode. So if Saru works for Vance, we'd probably see him every week too. It would be like Starfleet Command is like Deep Space Nine and the Discovery is like the Defiant.
this could be nice. I don’t see it happening, though.
 
I thought it was ambitious but lacked time. 14 episodes would’ve been better.

Things I liked:

Once again the season finale had some truly awesome pure science-fiction moments. Like Season 2’s Space Odyssey nod when they went through the wormhole, this one had some Total Recall moments and some other interesting stuff. Burnham getting absorbed into the data wall. Wall-E robots. Good stuff.

Nobody from the good guys died. Drama was had without death. Nice.

Some interesting character setups for next season. Book. Su’Kal. Vance. Aurelio.

Stamets hates Burnham again. Full circle, lol.

The music was damn good. Some Giacchino nods in there from his work on ST.
 
I maybe wrong but yeah, I think LD Season 2 is up next, then Disco S4, Then Picard S2. Dunno where Prodigy and SNW slot in.

My guess is the production schedules of LD, Picard, and Prodigy don't interfere with each other since they're animated or filmed in LA, and don't share production facilities.

SNW and Discovery (and S31 if it moves forward) are filmed in Toronto. My guess is that they plan to film year round so that they can keep the crew more consistently employed throughout the year and spread the cost of equipment/space like the AR Wall over more shows.

CBS really wants Paramount Plus to succeed, so they probably want to get some Star Trek content out every month. I assume it was the original plan to have Discovery air last summer, followed by Lower Decks in the fall, followed by S31 around now. (LD+Discovery+S31+Picard = about 45 episodes a year)

As it is, I assume Lower Decks will be the next Paramount Plus series to return this summer, and hopefully Discovery will return in the fall.
 
Nice red herring with the Ina character. Many people, including me, thought she was a redshirt. But she survived.
 
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