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SPOILERS - Wonder Woman 1984 - Review Thread
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The leap...home.
I enjoyed the movie for what it was - an interesting Wonder Woman adventure. That being said, it doesn't really fit into the DCEU continuity without turning and shaking your head while squinting. Did most people on Earth suffer a memory wipe hence no recognition of Diana 30 years later?
I have no complaints about the cast. Great all around. Can't remember the last time I saw Wiig in something dramatic.
As I live in the D.C. area, it was nice to see the location shooting - if only the MetroRail system here was as awe-astounding to the people who use it as it was to Steve Trevor.
I wonder if the games at the beginning would have been better spread out throughout the film ala Highlander style flashbacks. I admit, the whole consent thing never occurred to me until someone brought it up online. Yes, I can overlook the flight to Cairo especially with the beautiful fireworks display.
I have no complaints about the cast. Great all around. Can't remember the last time I saw Wiig in something dramatic.
As I live in the D.C. area, it was nice to see the location shooting - if only the MetroRail system here was as awe-astounding to the people who use it as it was to Steve Trevor.
I wonder if the games at the beginning would have been better spread out throughout the film ala Highlander style flashbacks. I admit, the whole consent thing never occurred to me until someone brought it up online. Yes, I can overlook the flight to Cairo especially with the beautiful fireworks display.
I think they gave up on a solid DCEU continuity quite awhile ago and TBH I don't think that was the wrong decision. Let the writers and directors tell the stories they want, even if they don't fit in perfectly with the other films. Suspension of disbelief can cover that. Or at least it would, if the movies were better
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Nobody actually saw Diana in the finale. The opening scene made a point of having her destroy security cameras. I figure she was an urban legend for a while and then just forgotten about.
There was a nuclear launch that nearly destroyed the world, then the missiles vanished...and the problem is people not remembering Diana?
Yea that made sense. Because destroying a security camera that has a wire running to the central area where the footage IS RECORDED obviously destroys that footage off the central area as well.
It's like when you see people shoot a computer monitor. Ok... But you didn't do anything to the ACTUAL COMPUTER.
There should still have been plenty of footage of her before she destroyed the camera. I would guess some secret organization/governmental organization came in and obtained all the footage.
Pascal, as Maxwell Lord stole the movie, I enjoyed his emotional ending with his son.
They just didn't seem to be bothered by pesky details........I saw an extra in the mall playing on his smartphone on the balcony and I was surprised to see modern looking to go coffee cups in the mall. I don't remember seeing venti size coffee in 84. Most to-go cups were Styrofoam or paper with the flat plastic lids. The whole thing could have used a lot more polishing and trimming. I am not really a fan of 2.5-3 hour films. Even stuff I loved like LOTR and Engame pushed my bladder to the limit.
Like the first two (or strictly speaking second and third) 'Fantastic Four' films, this seemed to have been made mainly for children. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, I just wish I'd known in advance so I didn't waste two and a half hours of my life on it.
Or simply shrugging shoulder when an extra 100 warheads appeared out of thin air.
It was ok, not as good as the first one. I have really become a stickler for blunt plot holes, which tend to bother me more and more. Case in point the jet at the Smithsonian they steal - we are led to believe that a fully fueled and maintained jet is sitting on the runway, readily accessible by anyone just walking by and can be started and gotten into the air by a guy whose sole experience with planes are WW1 era Doppeldeckers?
I really hate that kind of lazy writing - you obviously see they wanted to shoehorn the invivisible Wonder Woman plane into the movie and they didn't care much how to get there (also the Tornado they were flying didn't have side by side seats, just another nitpick).
The one thing i truly liked in this movie was Kristen Wiig - to me it came off quite believable how she progressed from insecure wallflower with a good heart to lashing out once she had power. Power corrupts as they say and all it sometimes takes is that one step to far before you lose it and she made that step.
Pedro Pascal was good too if a little overacting but that may also just have been the character itself losing control in an ever accelerating spiral.
I liked how it had two side-by-side seats in it, rather than one behind the other as it actually would (and which you can see it does from the outside). Another of Dianas's magic powers?
Plus there's no way it could get from America to Egypt and back on one lot of fuel.
I mostly liked the movie. Though I also have a general aversion to overly long movies. Not just due to bladder issues. But often like in this case removes the dramatic tension and sense of real focus of the story.
I actually did see it in a theater and did have to take a early bathroom break. I knew some basic spoilers and wished I went earlier. I was quick but returned just as Steve and Diana embrace each other. I am a huge Quantum Leap fan so I understood the basics of how he was back. But it was not until afterwards reading online that I learned that initially Diana saw the other guy instead.
I have no problem with Diana being an urban legend that few people believe in. But by the 3rd film which is planned to be modern day those kids will be adults. It may not have been a mainstream belief but it exists on the fringe. Truth is none of her modern day appearances deal with her as a public figure yet. She has yet to be called Wonder Woman! So it’s very easy to first address what the public knows of her in 3rd film. But it’s barely come up what anyone beyond Bruce Wayne and the main characters knew.
But total agreement - World War III almost happened. What did that do to The whole world. That is most obvious magical events were happening involving virtually everyone in the world. Is that just forget? It would be nice to have this address this in someway. I do not think other DC solo films need to talk about this stuff. It’s decades in the past. But next Wonder Woman film should. Even if just as a old newspaper framed in the background.
I actually did see it in a theater and did have to take a early bathroom break. I knew some basic spoilers and wished I went earlier. I was quick but returned just as Steve and Diana embrace each other. I am a huge Quantum Leap fan so I understood the basics of how he was back. But it was not until afterwards reading online that I learned that initially Diana saw the other guy instead.
I have no problem with Diana being an urban legend that few people believe in. But by the 3rd film which is planned to be modern day those kids will be adults. It may not have been a mainstream belief but it exists on the fringe. Truth is none of her modern day appearances deal with her as a public figure yet. She has yet to be called Wonder Woman! So it’s very easy to first address what the public knows of her in 3rd film. But it’s barely come up what anyone beyond Bruce Wayne and the main characters knew.
But total agreement - World War III almost happened. What did that do to The whole world. That is most obvious magical events were happening involving virtually everyone in the world. Is that just forget? It would be nice to have this address this in someway. I do not think other DC solo films need to talk about this stuff. It’s decades in the past. But next Wonder Woman film should. Even if just as a old newspaper framed in the background.
The only thing for me is Pedro's character.. What was he trying to do? Maybe if he got enough people to wish on him that the old god might have came back to life?? Just his thing of wanting to be the "Wish Stone" was kind of a Huh? thing for me.
But was good, me and freinds were doing a MST 3k through the whole thing .. fun!
But was good, me and freinds were doing a MST 3k through the whole thing .. fun!
I think it was a kind of "If i had one wish i'd wish for infinite wishes" - he found a loophole in the "Dreamstone mechanic" but it was too much physically for him until he found a solution to this as well by taking the health and power of everybody who made a wish. I liked his character - started off as a loser and con man and got this one opportunity to turn it around (btw - how did he learn about the Dreamstone and its powers?). He lost control because he always upped the ante but failed to realize that whatever the Stone granted it also took something away from the person making the wish.
My experience is the opposite. I used to spot every single inconsistency and flaw in a film or TV show (and make sure everyone was aware of my cleverness
). Over the years I’ve let go of that and mostly judge films on performances and broad strokes. A colleague of mine years ago (teaches film studies) pointed out to me something that should have been obvious but my “cleverness” had overlooked. Filmmakers are primarily interested in evoking an emotional, rather than intellectual, response (in the aggregate, of course—there are, naturally, exceptions). I slowly came around to that perspective and it has done wonders for my ability to enjoy the moment when watching movies. I can still spot the flaws, and where appropriate (for me, discussing films I assign to my students), discuss and analyze them. But I learned to tone down that aspect in other situations and go with what the filmmakers provide. Doesn’t mean I like or enjoy everything I watch. But it does mean I don’t get bent out of shape over the wrong coffee cup, the occasional anachronistic vocabulary, a fully fueled jet at the Smithsonian, etc. Of course, this applies to me. Unlike my “clever” younger me, I don’t expect anyone else to follow my way of watching movies. Live and let live.
Well I was nitpicking with my friends that Panvia didn't make a side by side Tornado plane, and that they stole it from a museum and it was fully fueled and ready to go? PLUS there's no way that Steve would know how to fly one.. he flew bi planes! Its like me sitting in one.. Where's the on switch? what switches to I need to flip before it start? An APU? Whats that!! That was the biggest Huh? with me and my friends.. 
Nitpicking I'm sure, but.. just saying.
Nitpicking I'm sure, but.. just saying.
Sure it wasn't a Gameboy?
In any event, it's not exactly a Starbucks cup in Westeros.
I laughed at the notion that the Smithsonian has fueled fighter jets sitting around accessible to a runway. Also wondered if fireworks really look like that from above the clouds. But I was just swept up in the romance of the thing.
Pine does not get to shine in this one quite as he did in the first - but then, neither does Gadot. There are fewer quiet moments near the end, and too much frenetic action. This is a series that would benefit from taking the spectacle down a notch - okay, half a notch - there's real heart to this character and her adventures that doesn't need to be overwhelmed by obvious and extravagant CG.
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I think being mind-numbingly pedestrian is probably worse in my mind than being outright bad. Bad movies sometimes can have an energy and vibe all their own and can be laughed with and talked about later. Being bored and disengaged while watching is the worst.
Not in 1984. Maybe electronic football?Sure it wasn't a Gameboy?
At least at home you could pause it when that time comes. I agree about the details, my first red flag for me was right at the start with little Diana's spandex suit, I know it's a fantasy film and all but it just seemed incongruous with the setting. Or Cheetah's platform heels that looked way more 20XX than 1984. Not that those are dealbreakers in and of themselves but it felt like they were going through the motions with it. Even the final transformation and showdown with Cheetah felt rather perfunctory. The cartoon lasso and action scenes didn't feel like they had any weight behind them.
I think being mind-numbingly pedestrian is probably worse in my mind than being outright bad. Bad movies sometimes can have an energy and vibe all their own and can be laughed with and talked about later. Being bored and disengaged while watching is the worst.
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