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SPOILERS - Wonder Woman 1984 - Review Thread

Anyone else find it a weird coincidence that this year both started and ended with a controversial movie about anthromaporphic cats?
 
In the scene near the finale where she was flying through the clouds, anyone notice the use of John Murphy's score from Sunshine, Capa's Jump
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(2:20- one of my favourite moments ever)

I mean it's a great score, but just took me out of the movie a bit and seems a tad lazy to just reuse someone else's music and not create your own
 
That’s cool but I wish they would make another Superman movie. About time the king got a sequel

Cavill was fantastic as Superman--too fantastic for WB to avoid producing another film with their top character. When is the question.

I don't, Superman has already had a starring role in 7 live action movies, 2 serials, had a starring role in 9 animated movies...

That's not how it works. Flagship characters are a money-making property, so studios will continue to make new films which have absolutely nothing to do with the idea of "time in the spotlight". If your notion held weight, then Sony/Disney would not be in the middle of yet another round of Spider-Man movies (including his appearance in a Captain America film and two Avengers movies), when there were five other Spider-Man movies just within the past 20 years.

Superman needs more DCEU films.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was - an interesting Wonder Woman adventure. That being said, it doesn't really fit into the DCEU continuity without turning and shaking your head while squinting. Did most people on Earth suffer a memory wipe hence no recognition of Diana 30 years later?

That's the problem, and a rather large one; Jenkins and Johns' botched script does not fit into the rest of the DCEU---including the first Wonder Woman movie; in this film, she's forgotten her lessons about rising above the petty, self-serving actions of humans to fully satisfy her own desires, and at the end of the film, she's bouncing around far too happy for the isolationist woman who was brought out of that state in Dawn of Justice (up to a point), but still suffered from her loss, hence her behavior before receiving Bruce Wayne's email in the present-day scenes in Wonder Woman. This film is like some bad one-off one would see in a comic series when the regular, good creative team was unavailable, only to be replaced by low-end fill-ins for one month.


Yea that made sense. Because destroying a security camera that has a wire running to the central area where the footage IS RECORDED obviously destroys that footage off the central area as well.

It's like when you see people shoot a computer monitor. Ok... But you didn't do anything to the ACTUAL COMPUTER.

Having anyone know that the camera is not the true business end of surveillance monitoring took too much...you know...common sense or life experience, so yeah, destroying a security camera somehow gets rid of taped footage....

There should still have been plenty of footage of her before she destroyed the camera. I would guess some secret organization/governmental organization came in and obtained all the footage.

Good point, but that's not going to happen, since the films set in the current time have next to no one know of her existence until she decides to return to action. There's that lack of continuity / not fitting in the series it was supposed to be a part of business again....
 
My experience is the opposite. I used to spot every single inconsistency and flaw in a film or TV show (and make sure everyone was aware of my cleverness ;) ). Over the years I’ve let go of that and mostly judge films on performances and broad strokes. A colleague of mine years ago (teaches film studies) pointed out to me something that should have been obvious but my “cleverness” had overlooked. Filmmakers are primarily interested in evoking an emotional, rather than intellectual, response (in the aggregate, of course—there are, naturally, exceptions). I slowly came around to that perspective and it has done wonders for my ability to enjoy the moment when watching movies. I can still spot the flaws, and where appropriate (for me, discussing films I assign to my students), discuss and analyze them. But I learned to tone down that aspect in other situations and go with what the filmmakers provide. Doesn’t mean I like or enjoy everything I watch. But it does mean I don’t get bent out of shape over the wrong coffee cup, the occasional anachronistic vocabulary, a fully fueled jet at the Smithsonian, etc.

Of course, this applies to me. Unlike my “clever” younger me, I don’t expect anyone else to follow my way of watching movies. Live and let live.
That's pretty much my philosophy when it comes to movies. I'll confess, I noticed most of the stuff you guys are talking about, but I just didn't care about any of it. It's pretty much all minor stuff that doesn't really have any impact on the actual plot of the movie, so I'm happy to just move on and enjoy the rest of the movie.
The only one that has started bothering me a bit as I've thought it over, is the whole thing with Steve in the other guy's body. That was kind of a weird way to bring him back, and does open up some moral issues. With all of the stuff we saw happening, it wouldn't have been that hard to just have the stone bring actual Steve back. It's still not enough to change my overall opinion of the movie though.
 
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(2:20- one of my favourite moments ever)

I mean it's a great score, but just took me out of the movie a bit and seems a tad lazy to just reuse someone else's music and not create your own

My brother did and it totally took him out of it. It doesn't happen often, but unless it's meant as a theme (Superman's in Shazam, Back to the Future in Ready Player One, etc) it is really odd to me.

It almost makes me wonder if it was placeholder music and they just forgot to replace it or something, like how the early leaked pilot episode of the TV series Fringe had music from Signs, Alien, and Lost AND this very same song.

Temp music, I believe is what they officially call it.
 
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That's the problem, and a rather large one; Jenkins and Johns' botched script does not fit into the rest of the DCEU.

Not a problem for me, large or small - I don't give a fuck about the DCEU or the MCU or any franchise. I just like a movie or I don't.

I really liked this one. And the first one.

The boys club could learn a lot from Jenkins and Gadot.
 
There was a nuclear launch that nearly destroyed the world, then the missiles vanished...and the problem is people not remembering Diana?

Well, there wasn't enough time in the day to write out every massive discrepancy in the continuity. I just decided to mention one that stuck out.
 
My experience is the opposite. I used to spot every single inconsistency and flaw in a film or TV show (and make sure everyone was aware of my cleverness ;) ). Over the years I’ve let go of that and mostly judge films on performances and broad strokes. A colleague of mine years ago (teaches film studies) pointed out to me something that should have been obvious but my “cleverness” had overlooked. Filmmakers are primarily interested in evoking an emotional, rather than intellectual, response (in the aggregate, of course—there are, naturally, exceptions). I slowly came around to that perspective and it has done wonders for my ability to enjoy the moment when watching movies. I can still spot the flaws, and where appropriate (for me, discussing films I assign to my students), discuss and analyze them. But I learned to tone down that aspect in other situations and go with what the filmmakers provide. Doesn’t mean I like or enjoy everything I watch. But it does mean I don’t get bent out of shape over the wrong coffee cup, the occasional anachronistic vocabulary, a fully fueled jet at the Smithsonian, etc.

Of course, this applies to me. Unlike my “clever” younger me, I don’t expect anyone else to follow my way of watching movies. Live and let live.

I understand where you're coming from and if a movie grips me completely i tend to overlook such details too but this was not the case with WW84 and such glaring lazy writing just rubs me the wrong way, especially with writers and directors, who get paid hundreds of thousands or millions per movie. I understand they wanted and needed to have the invisible plane in the movie as fan service ( it did nothing for the story, they might as well taken a commercial flight to get to Cairo) but they just took the easy way out and glossed over it.
 
If a man drugs a woman and has sex with her when she's unconscious that's rape. Magic bullshit aside this is no different.

I'm not sure we know enough about the magic involved to know what actually happened. I think the simplest is that Steve "soul" temporarily did occupy the physical body of someone else and in that case then they immediately used that body for sex. But we don't really know the exact transfer process.

Quantum Leap had Sam's actually body changing places even if the appearance to everyone else (and himself in the mirror) was the person(or animal) he replaced. Since he actually fathered a child genetically with his DNA during a leap. So it was his body, but everyone else saw someone else.
 
My experience is the opposite. I used to spot every single inconsistency and flaw in a film or TV show (and make sure everyone was aware of my cleverness ;) ). Over the years I’ve let go of that and mostly judge films on performances and broad strokes. A colleague of mine years ago (teaches film studies) pointed out to me something that should have been obvious but my “cleverness” had overlooked. Filmmakers are primarily interested in evoking an emotional, rather than intellectual, response (in the aggregate, of course—there are, naturally, exceptions). I slowly came around to that perspective and it has done wonders for my ability to enjoy the moment when watching movies. I can still spot the flaws, and where appropriate (for me, discussing films I assign to my students), discuss and analyze them. But I learned to tone down that aspect in other situations and go with what the filmmakers provide. Doesn’t mean I like or enjoy everything I watch. But it does mean I don’t get bent out of shape over the wrong coffee cup, the occasional anachronistic vocabulary, a fully fueled jet at the Smithsonian, etc.

Exactly so.

The jet thing, invisible or otherwise, was such a bit of comic book logic. I enjoyed the scene, as I did most of the movie, a great deal.

This is gonna be one of those flicks that serve the unintended purpose of lining the pockets of the leeches at Midnight's Edge, et al - the online "fans" who make up lies* as a means of monetizing fannish misogyny.

*Expect a surfeit of dreadful nonsense about WB and Disney being unhappy with Jenkins.
 
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