Then it must the information processing speeds of the scan that is "Advanced, near real time processing on a atomic level must have vast amounts of data".
That would be the fun way to interpret the sperm suit: it's ancient, pre-McCoy tech, but the 32nd century allows it to perform much more significant scans.
The quick sedation thing appears to be a novelty to both the 2250s medics, though. We first see such things in action in the TOS era, so it's not exactly supertech, but it's still better than what Culber previously could achieve without blasting his patients with a phaser on stun...
I'll have to disagree with you on that. Those looked like energy bolts and the Torpedo could've fired off-screen in the battle. And a LARGE chunk of the battle was either zoomed out from planetside or obscured by the cockpit of the Nautilus. For the Torpedos to track and hit the Nautilus while it's doing it's "Death Star-style strafing attacks", the Torpedoes must be able to manuever and track the Nautilus. Ergo, the straight moving energy bolt looking projectiles from the turrets must be normal old energy bolts. The torpedos were just never shown in the VFX.
Here I must point out that the VFX for torpedoes basically invariably shows "energy bolts" that travel in straight lines. What Osyyra fires is no different from what our TNG heroes fire when they spit out photon torpedoes in, say, ST:FC or ST:NEM.
Torpedoes do maneuver in all eras, from ENT to DSC S1-2 to TOS (dialogue only) to TNG to PIC. But the most typical maneuver for a torpedo is a beeline...
It could be or we don't get a good sense as to what their altitude is.
The altitude in the shots from Book's POV is sorta fine: the ship is a few klicks up, hovering above the capital and trying to punch a fairly local hole in the defenses.
As for the definition of "local", when Book and Burnham went under the scattershield, they were already a couple of minutes' walk away from the capital and the Boss House (unless there was vehicular traffic of personal transporting involved offscreen). Dialogue is ambiguous on whether they walked under the umbrella from beyond its edge, or whether the umbrella was opened above them after the beam-down, but logically the latter would be more appealing, as Book would want to beam down close to their destination, and said destination would be unlikely to be near the edge of the shield. OTOH, perhaps it's not easy to turn the shield on and off?
Incidentally, the map of the pseudo-Iceland shows them beaming in halfway through shoreline and island centerpoint, a location Booker considers "deep inland". Make of the scale what you will, then.
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/epics/DSC-S3/S3E8/DSC-S3E8-179.jpg
The altitude in the fight between the two ships is revealed in a shot where the curvature of the planet is visible behind them. That's half a thousand klicks at least, and not consistent with being inside the atmosphere of the planet (technically, there'd be air up there, too, but it would not be significantly different from the amount of air at the initial altitude of the
Discovery).
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/epics/DSC-S3/S3E8/DSC-S3E8-340.jpg
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/epics/DSC-S3/S3E8/DSC-S3E8-348.jpg
At best, we can argue that Osyyra went up and down like a
Discovery turbolift in an attempt to shake off the
Nautilus...
The larger the turrets, the harder it is to turn them, even with electric motors.
But the point is that even "maximally hard" is a breeze for a starship. There's absolutely no in-universe reason why a turret the size of the
Discovery could not complete fifty rotations per second from a standstill start - after all, we see the
Discovery do that very trick in most episodes!
I highly doubt her ship had CIWS style anti-projectile and anti-fighter capabilities. Probably a oversight on her or her designer since she probably never had to contest against a competent space pilot in a star fighter level of manueverability vessel.
There could also be a capacity gap at the specific niche of Book's ride: an opponent that is nimbler than big ships but better shielded than small ones. And the designers of the cruiser might take a look at that capacity gap, and decide there's no point in trying to close it, because all opponent ships in that niche will be far too weakly armed to do any damage even when they can engage in a prolonged dogfight. But Detmer having good advice on where to shoot would alter that.
Don't forget that the computer was helping for some of the battle, we don't know when the Torpedoes hit, so it could be either Detmer or the computer's fault that the torpedoes hit or just unavoidable due to circumstance.
Indeed. But with the volumes of fire involved, even fairly random hits would quickly reach the count of eight!
We are hard pressed to count the hits ourselves. The shields of the
Nautilus flare up often enough, but perhaps not all impacts count as hits when the shields do their job?
VFX beam for the uninformed audience.
The situations at Kaminar and Kwejian were admittedly slightly different. In both, though, the point seemed to be to project sound waves at a large number of individuals even when a point source was generating them. At Kaminar, this was apparently achieved by co-opting the loudspeakers of the Ba'ul pylons at every village, via Ba'ul comms. At Kwejian, there would be no loudspeakers available, so the obvious alternative would be a tractor beam that shakes the air over a wide area.
So the two things distasteful about the beam we got would be
1) it doesn't look, walk or quack like a tractor beam (for any era, least of all the DSC ones for which we have seen the VFX and many emitter locations both in the 23rd and the 32nd century), and
2) it really doesn't appear to cover a particularly large area of the planet.
But we can handwave both. Perhaps tractor beams were recently (that is, post-"Die Trying") upgraded to look like this? Perhaps using them for atmosphere shaking makes them look like this? And perhaps the pseudo-Iceland actually is a really tiny island, and most of the planet is uninhabited or free of the locusts but also unsuited for agriculture?
We could also argue that the heroes created a divine loudspeaker right above the capital and let the sound propagate across the planet - but I'd trust such an arrangement would have pulverized the capital while still making the locusts at the shores strain to hear what is being recited at them.
Or they permanently widened the corridor during the refit?
We'll see. I'm still rather fond of the idea that ships of this ilk were originally shuttlecarriers, and everything from the forward bulkhead of the current shuttlebay is a modification where the original hangars have given way to mushroomrooms, labs and the like. Modifying the modifications would then be not just doable but perhaps also desirable: after all, most of the original experiments would now be gone forever, or optimized and minimized.
Certainly the moving of walls is allowable, and especially in the case of a ship that has interior volume to spare, as per the turbolift funhouse scenes.
Timo Saloniemi
