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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

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Also wheres the starfleet guy from ep 1 I loved that dude. His family have sat alone for generations waiting for starfleet so please go tell him you made contact with HQ
Miss him too. A real pity they set him up and totally forgot him afterwards (so far, I hope).

I'm not sure if Vance would have been too impressed with that guy. He's probably better off where he is.
why not?!
 
since you mentioned politics, as an Italian living in 2020 I can testify that putting well-intentioned but incompetent individuals in charge doesn’t work very well.
Incompetent people are often supported by more competent people who know better but put their own whims first. We just have to accept that Saru is one of those people who puts his whims first. Maybe it's the Vahar'ai, although Saru did try to strand Tyler and Burnham on that one planet when the aliens offered him an opportunity to never be afraid again.
Miss him too. A real pity they set him up and totally forgot him afterwards (so far, I hope).

why not?!
Look how Vance told off Adira just for referring to Admiral Tal's memories. Vance will find something to knock down on that outpost guy.

Vance: Why in the galaxy didn't you just reconfigure the phase modulator of the transwarp transport system to boost your communication signal? You couldn't even do that in 40 years?

Outpost guy: Sorry.
 
So Burnham can get enough dilithium together to run round the galaxy solving the biggest event in 1000s of years but no one else can.

Also wheres the starfleet guy from ep 1 I loved that dude. His family have sat alone for generations waiting for starfleet so please go tell him you made contact with HQ

More like Star Fleet had other more important things to concentrate on and eventually, after almost 100 years decided it didn't matter anymore compared to everyday just trying to survive as an Institution.
:shrug:
 
Me: “At least if we jump 930 years into the future, Discovery won’t be all about Michael Burnham being the child of Sarek and a sibling to Spock. Hopefully it won’t all revolve around her.”

Discovery: “Hold my beer.”

Me going back to this abusive relationship. I defend it. I think it’s going to change. It doesn’t change and I keep coming back.

I am not a hater, but I’ve kind of reached my breaking point where it’s strained credibility for me.
 
More like Star Fleet had other more important things to concentrate on and eventually, after almost 100 years decided it didn't matter anymore compared to everyday just trying to survive as an Institution.
:shrug:
BS how can you be sure it won't happen again if you don't know where or why it happened. It would be an absolute priority to investigate it especially if investigating is as easy as picking up some of your ships black boxes and can be done by one person in one year
 
The TOS supporting crew, who were basically there to say "yes sir" to Kirk, Spock or McCoy, had more development in their three seasons than Discovery has. This is a hill I choose to die on. Make me care about these people other than when they need to pilot the ship or fire the weapons or communicate with somebody.
There's a big difference between a show that had three seasons for a total of 78 episodes; and a show like discovery who as of this last episode, has produced 35 episodes.

By comparison the first season of TOS comprised 30 episodes in itself (although only 29 were aired because the 30 includes the original pilot which was ultimately used to create two episodes of the first season as well).

If you look at the character development in the first season of TOS, it's roughly equivalent to what Discovery has done for it's supporting cast and it's 35 episodes. Plus overall TOS had four recurring bridge officer characters. Discovery has way more ancillary characters than that; but still has managed to give these other ancillary characters of fair amount of development again given 35 episodes produced so far.
 
I’ve kind of reached my breaking point where it’s strained credibility for me.
You haven't reached your breaking point on Discovery. When you do it, you'll know it because you'll be so disgusted you won't watch another episode.

I know because I found my own tv breaking point. Lower Decks episode 5 was it. In the middle of it I turned it off and said I'm not watching any more of this. I had never done that to a Trek show before, not even after Threshold on Voyager.
 
Incompetent people are often supported by more competent people who know better but put their own whims first. We just have to accept that Saru is one of those people who puts his whims first.
Exactly: the inexperienced people screw up and/or gets manipulated, either way it doesn’t end well.

Look how Vance told off Adira just for referring to Admiral Tal's memories. Vance will find something to knock down on that outpost guy.
Agreed, that was very bad and totally uncalled for. And speaking of promising characters that has been missing for a while: apart from the occasional minor scene Adira hasn’t been up to much since the Trill episode...a pity, I like her a lot.

BS how can you be sure it won't happen again if you don't know where or why it happened. It would be an absolute priority to investigate it especially if investigating is as easy as picking up some of your ships black boxes and can be done by one person in one year
and in 100 years nobody attempted it for some reason, even if a couple of dudes on their own managed in a single year to do most of the work.
Unless Vance knows much more than us, which could very well be.
 
characters than that; but still has managed to give these other ancillary characters of fair amount of development again given 35 episodes produced so far.
No it hasn't.

Insurrection was 2 hours long and I know way more about Lily than I do about Detmer, Owo or high-five guys.

Edit: First Contact.not Insurrection
 
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Exactly: the inexperienced people screw up and/or gets manipulated, either way it doesn’t end well.

Agreed, that was very bad and totally uncalled for. And speaking of promising characters that has been missing for a while: apart from the occasional minor scene Adira hasn’t been up to much since the Trill episode...a pity, I like her a lot.

and in 100 years nobody attempted it for some reason, even if a couple of dudes on their own managed in a single year to do most of the work.
Unless Vance knows much more than us, which could very well be.
Maybe he already knows/has a suspicion and doesn't want to admit it?
 
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I had decided to retire this response as I was seriously overusing it, simply because I really loved it, but this one is worth bringing it out of retirement for...

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Look how Vance told off Adira just for referring to Admiral Tal's memories. Vance will find something to knock down on that outpost guy.

Vance: Why in the galaxy didn't you just reconfigure the phase modulator of the transwarp transport system to boost your communication signal? You couldn't even do that in 40 years?

Outpost guy: Sorry.
And therefore Vance should leave him stranded for another 40 years? That's just cruel.

BS how can you be sure it won't happen again if you don't know where or why it happened. It would be an absolute priority to investigate it especially if investigating is as easy as picking up some of your ships black boxes and can be done by one person in one year
They thought it was SB-19 and covered it up. End of story as far as they're concerned.
 
Also wheres the starfleet guy from ep 1 I loved that dude. His family have sat alone for generations waiting for starfleet so please go tell him you made contact with HQ

In serious, in-universe terms, he's probably too far out in the sticks. That is, his sensors couldn't see Vance's ships coming and going despite reaching out 600 lightyears in a direction. And Burnham, operating from an area near Sahil's relay, found Earth too far away to visit before the Discovery and her spore drive arrived.

Indeed, when still in contact with Sahil, Burnham also made contact with Terralysium, which is supposed to be in Deep Beta, 51,000+ ly from Earth's vicinity. If she can reach Terralysium more easily than she can Earth, Sahil won't get a Christmas card from Vance this year, either!

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