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Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

Unfortunate that they did.

I don't see how. But, that's me. Boba Fett is simply uninspiring to bring back.

Unfortunately this is what fans want so here we are.
I mean, Season 2 was written and started shooting before Season 1 even aired, so I doubt it had to do with fan feedback.
 
But they had no idea it was going to be a big success before they started.
I guess maybe reaction to the trailers and such.
It's not like it wouldn't be hard to gauge and pull the trigger on bringing Fett back. Between Clone Wars and this there is so much Mandalorian fever going on that it was an easy guess to make.
 
Ok, this was really good. Loved the hardcore Western tone. Very townfolk and native with Mos Pelgo and the Tuskens. Cobb Vanth was delightful. And looked fantastic in the armor. I was honestly surprised he wasn't made an honorary Mando at the end, and left with the armor.

Krayt dragon! I love that they kept the sound effect from when Obi-Wan saves Luke as it's cry. The sand worm approach was maybe a little derivative, but it looked great, and you can totally buy that even sand people would be terrified of the thing. (And it EATS sarlaacs?! Ok, that's awesome.) We got some great action, and even some cool jetpack stuff. Even if the solution should have been obvious as soon as they introduced the Bantha sacrifices. (My girl even turned to me and said, "So they're going to load one with explosives and feed it to the thing?")

So many great callbacks. Anakin's podracer engine as Vance's speeder. The Obi-Wan call/dragon roar. R5 working for the tech from last season was fun. Little stuff that's fun nods for the initiated, but don't take away from the episode if you're unfamiliar with them.

And, finally, Boba Fett. I'm not thrilled by this development, as I mentioned when the casting was announced. But I'll be curious if this is all we see of the character. It would be kind of fitting if it was a one off nod. But considering fans are pretty sure he was the one who recovered Fennic Shand's body last year, it feels like this is building to something. Boba Fett has no real reason to want to go after our Mandalorian, save to try and rebuild his bounty hunting rep. Maybe now that Din has his armor, but as others have mentioned the armor feels like an odd hook, considering he could have just taken it from Cobb Vanth. The Child on the other hand... if anybody we've met so far is going to recognize the Child it might be Boba. Who also has a serious mad on for the Jedi. I'm optimistic that there will be some meat to whatever they come up with, and make the character useful, and maybe even interesting.

As an aside, with how they've chosen to visualize Boba, Morrison need only add a Santa beard to serve double duty as a certain clone Captain...

Hope springs eternal.
 
The success of the show was a guarantee that Fett would be back. It's BS but it is what it is.
I think it makes perfect sense that a show focused on a Mandalorian, would bring back the most famous Mandalorian related characters. It's not really all that different from Picard bringing back Hugh and Seven of Nine in a story about the Borg.
The Child on the other hand... if anybody we've met so far is going to recognize the Child it might be Boba.
How so? I don't think he ever had anything to do with Yoda.
As for why Boba never went after the armor, maybe had had just lost track of it, until Din showed up and started asking about a Mandalorian near by.
Another one just occurred to, maybe he's just after Din, and isn't even aware of his armor yet. If he is the one who saved Fennec last season, then maybe she told him about the Mandalorian she encountered, and once he shows back up on Tattooine, he decided to track him down.
Either way, that was a hell of a tease, and I'm very curious what they are going to do with the character.
 
I think it makes perfect sense that a show focused on a Mandalorian, would bring back the most famous Mandalorian related characters. It's not really all that different from Picard bringing back Hugh and Seven of Nine in a story about the Borg.
You're right, it's not that different. It's fan service, pure and simple.

Mileage will vary on enjoyment.
 
I think of any of the characters rumored to appear this season, the one that could offer Din Djarin the most insight on The Child's species would be Ahsoka.
 
I don't see how. But, that's me. Boba Fett is simply uninspiring to bring back.
Entirely consistent with how his character is presented in both the OT and the PT.

From the PT/TCW point of view; Fett is an actual character with depth, pathos, motivations and an interesting history, so rescuing him from a fairly off-hand and ignoble death is worthwhile since now that story can continue either here or elsewhere.

From the OT angle; Fett was just a walking trope. The mysterious gunslinger; the terse "man with no name." He's basically there to look cool and mysterious. He's not meant to be an actual *character* in that sense. So having him show up all silent and mysterious in the stinger feels perfectly in line with that too.

From a plot logic standpoint, it's perfectly reasonably that he'd survive: 1) He's wearing a suit of armor (which this episode explicitly demonstrated is acid proof), is armed to the teeth with explosives, cutting implements, grapple lines, a flame thrower, and has a jet pack. 2)he was explicitly still alive and conscious when he went in. 3) Sarlaccs are explicitly stated to have slow digestion, so time is on his side. 4) That thing just had a sail barge blow up right above it's mouth. All that flaming wreckage and shrapnel probably did a number on it, if not outright killed it.
With all that in mind, It'd be weird if he WAS killed. Hell, even the EU as crappy as it could be at times came to the same conclusion.

Anyway, even Lucas wasn't happy with how things turned out with the pit fight, but it was a difficult (and expensive) shoot, they got the footage that they got and had to live with it. Apparently he briefly contemplated filming some extra footage for the SE's that showed him escaping from the pit after the fact, but (wisely) thought better of it.

Also keep in mind that this could literally be all we ever see of Fett. A wink and a nod to the fans, saying basically: "yes of course that was him in season one, but here, look! There he is for sure this time! Now shut up and enjoy the show!" Either way it's too early to judge. Also consider the precedent; Maul only got interesting AFTER he was resurrected.
 
I'm not at all into the overall Star Wars universe, just know the broad strokes of pop culture, but I love the Mandalorian.

Dune/Tremors/Sandworms + Western + Dragon Slayer + a bit of Star Wars all put into a blender....still, it was a very entertaining and IMO cool episode!

Timothy Olyphant as an SciFi Western Marshall (Raylan Givens & Seth Bullock :D), wearing Mandalorian armor, Jetpack, teaming off with "our" Mando and the little green one by their side. Hope he stays on "our" Mando's good side and appears as a recurring character.
 
Entirely consistent with how his character is presented in both the OT and the PT.

From the PT/TCW point of view; Fett is an actual character with depth, pathos, motivations and an interesting history, so rescuing him from a fairly off-hand and ignoble death is worthwhile since now that story can continue either here or elsewhere.

From the OT angle; Fett was just a walking trope. The mysterious gunslinger; the terse "man with no name." He's basically there to look cool and mysterious. He's not meant to be an actual *character* in that sense. So having him show up all silent and mysterious in the stinger feels perfectly in line with that too.

From a plot logic standpoint, it's perfectly reasonably that he'd survive: 1) He's wearing a suit of armor (which this episode explicitly demonstrated is acid proof), is armed to the teeth with explosives, cutting implements, grapple lines, a flame thrower, and has a jet pack. 2)he was explicitly still alive and conscious when he went in. 3) Sarlaccs are explicitly stated to have slow digestion, so time is on his side. 4) That thing just had a sail barge blow up right above it's mouth. All that flaming wreckage and shrapnel probably did a number on it, if not outright killed it.
With all that in mind, It'd be weird if he WAS killed. Hell, even the EU as crappy as it could be at times came to the same conclusion.

Anyway, even Lucas wasn't happy with how things turned out with the pit fight, but it was a difficult (and expensive) shoot, they got the footage that they got and had to live with it. Apparently he briefly contemplated filming some extra footage for the SE's that showed him escaping from the pit after the fact, but (wisely) thought better of it.

Also keep in mind that this could literally be all we ever see of Fett. A wink and a nod to the fans, saying basically: "yes of course that was him in season one, but here, look! There he is for sure this time! Now shut up and enjoy the show!" Either way it's too early to judge. Also consider the precedent; Maul only got interesting AFTER he was resurrected.
I'm glad you like it. All the history in the world did not make Fett interesting to me and lacks any incentive for me to become invested. Fett simply was a cipher, and effort to tie back in to the OT, and it failed miserably in the PT. Jango was the closest to interesting, but that's owing to Morrison more than anything else. There is no charm in the Mandalorian armor to inspire confidence in any of the characters.

With that, I shall step away. It's not for me and I have said my piece on the matter.
 
I'm glad you like it. All the history in the world did not make Fett interesting to me and lacks any incentive for me to become invested. Fett simply was a cipher, and effort to tie back in to the OT, and it failed miserably in the PT. Jango was the closest to interesting, but that's owing to Morrison more than anything else. There is no charm in the Mandalorian armor to inspire confidence in any of the characters.

With that, I shall step away. It's not for me and I have said my piece on the matter.
Liking it isn't a factor. I don't really care one way or the other. I'm just acknowledging the objective fact that this plot point is entirely justified. I'm sorry that you didn't like Fett's trajectory in TCW, but that doesn't really affect the end result all that much.
 
Liking it isn't a factor. I don't really care one way or the other. I'm just acknowledging the objective fact that this plot point is entirely justified. I'm sorry that you didn't like Fett's trajectory in TCW, but that doesn't really affect the end result all that much.
Objectively, he was dead. Bringing him back doesn't add to the lore.
 
Objectively, he was dead. Bringing him back doesn't add to the lore.
Objectively, there was no body and last we saw of him, he was still kicking and screaming. So no, he wasn't dead, ergo he's not being "brought back" from death at all, just re-introduced after an absence.
According to Tor.com's review/recap of the episode, the cyclops guy at the beginning was John Leguizamo, I had no idea that was him. One other thing their writer mentions, that stood out to me too, was how agile the Gamoreans were during their fight. It was a bit weird to see them running and jumping around like that, when in most of their other appearances they seemed to barely be able walk.
Well you're comparing pit fighters to the guards in palace with the most laissez faire approach to security ever.
Mind you, being in better shape doesn't make them any smarter. Exibit A: that one idiot that tried to jump on Mando but just face planted right into the floor without landing a single blow.
 
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I have no objection to Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc. Hell, the very first Star Wars story post Return of the Jedi, Marvel comics issue number 80, had Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc. It's not a new concept.
 
Objectively, there was no body and last we saw of him, he was still kicking and screaming. So no, he wasn't dead, ergo he's not being "brought back" from death at all, just re-introduced after an absence.
By that argument Mace Windu isn't dead either.

Regardless, objectively or not, its fan service and one I find objectionable. Not for me. Not enjoyable. Unpleasant. Annoying. Prefer to avoid. 0 out of 10 stars. Would not recommend. Etc.

Mileage will vary.
 
May I ask a stupid question? Why is everyone assuming that's definitely Boba Fett?

It was a bit weird to see them running and jumping around like that, when in most of their other appearances they seemed to barely be able walk.
We only saw fat, lazy ones before. ;)
 
May I ask a stupid question? Why is everyone assuming that's definitely Boba Fett?
1) He has Boba's face. 2) he's too young to be an age accelerated clone trooper. 3) he's at the last place Boba was last time we saw him. 4) at the end of a story heavily featuring his iconic armor. 5) shows up right after said armour rides off into the suns set. 6) they used the signature "spurs" sfx as he was walking away toawrds camera. 7) I mean just how many fucking dots does a person need to have connected for them here?
By that argument Mace Windu isn't dead either.

He'd stopped screaming and was clearly not in the land of the living anymore...and that was BEFORE he got flung out the window of a 100+ story building on a planet that's 100% covered in pavement (read: soft landings aren't a thing.) ...And he'd just been electrocuted in his face...a lot...AND was freshly missing a limb or two.

On a scale of "defiantly not dead" to "deader than tank-tops" Mace was at about a 9.999999 last we saw him. Boba was at a 2 or 3 tops.
Regardless, objectively or not, its fan service and one I find objectionable. Not for me. Not enjoyable. Unpleasant. Annoying. Prefer to avoid. 0 out of 10 stars. Would not recommend. Etc.

There there. Just relax and have a cookie while the rest of us have fun with our entertainment. You know about fun? It's a thing you do with make belive stories about space wizards and super-commandos!
I have no objection to Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc. Hell, the very first Star Wars story post Return of the Jedi, Marvel comics issue number 80, had Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc. It's not a new concept.
Didn't that story end with him falling right back in again? Or was that a retcon because EU authors just couldn't resist telling new versions of essentially the same story two or three times? See also the 53 odd times Han and co ran into a bounty hunter on Ord Mantel between ANH & tESB. Like seriously Han, stop going to Ord Mantel. It's practically made of bounty hunters!

ETA: Dyn should totally go to Ord Mantel! Bonus points if he tangles with a life sized savrip!
 
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