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Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

This is all explained at the start of the episode - this is a largely abandoned mining town that has been forgotten by most people. Did you nod off or something?
I'm talking about the planet Tattooine in general and in particular mos eisley (which I mentioned we visited in the first season). If you read my post again I mention ANH and TPM. I'm not talking about the mining town.
 
Ah damn it! Bloody special editions strike again....

OK, another question. Where the heck is everyone? We visited Tatooine this season and the first season and it sure is quiet as hell there now to how it used to be. Where did those crowds go? Why are the streets not filled with bustle like ANH or TPM? Why is the cantina so somber?

Well for one thing we didn't actually see Mos Eisley this time around outside of that one docking bay. The only other locations we saw were a remote forgotten mining town and the middle of the desert, which was always...well, deserted.

But yes, as we saw last time the place is a lot more sparsely populated than we'd previously seen. Most likely because in the past, most of that population would have been transient (it is a space port after all) and most of that traffic would have been to do with with Jabba's operation. No Jabba, no operation, no steady stream of ships, less demand for the local facilities like cantinas and hotels. Which means the worker population has gone elsewhere too, either off-world to find some other dustbowl to scrape a living from, out into the desert to try and make a go of homesteading, or snatched up by slavers.
 
I quite liked and enjoyed the episode, but after reading these comments, uh, I supposedly shouldn't have? :shrug:
Pffft....thus far I haven't seen much of a cross word said about it.
Sure we did. What do you think went flying out that window? The very dead body of Mace Windu. You think Palpatine wouldn't have waited until he was dead before kicking him out the building? Where would be the fun in that?
Agree to disagree.
...swallowed whole by a creature that takes a millennia to complete a bowl movement, while wearing a heavily armed and cunningly equipped acid-proof suit, right before a sail barge blew up in it's face.
Conveniently equipped, I would say. I've read all the books with Fett's coming back and it still doesn't make sense to me. Largely because his escaping makes the Sarlacc less of a threat. It's no longer a danger but a minor inconvenience to people.

And, again, I don't see what this adds to the story to have this character come back. Largely because we have two helmeted fellows obsessed with their helmets, working by an severely personal moral code while defeating the odds again and again. It's like having John Wick and Neo in the same film.

But, fans got to have their fan service so it must all be OK. :shrug:
 
I don't generally like fan service. But corporations like money, and fan service probably helps.

Luckily I am a casual fan and just really enjoy this regardless. The vibe and pacing. Stories. Landscapes. And they were out-Trekking trek as far as having a hero going about doing good, though DSC seems to have shifted that way.
 
But yes, as we saw last time the place is a lot more sparsely populated than we'd previously seen. Most likely because in the past, most of that population would have been transient (it is a space port after all) and most of that traffic would have been to do with with Jabba's operation. No Jabba, no operation, no steady stream of ships, less demand for the local facilities like cantinas and hotels. Which means the worker population has gone elsewhere too, either off-world to find some other dustbowl to scrape a living from, out into the desert to try and make a go of homesteading, or snatched up by slavers.

I doubt all that traffic was at Jabba's behest, but with the new political situation, it's possible the grey- and black-market trade routes aren't what they used to be. The New Republic covers different territory and has different interests than the Empire and Old Republic did, so whatever routes made Tatooine worth stopping at are either defunct or different, now.
 
I doubt all that traffic was at Jabba's behest, but with the new political situation, it's possible the grey- and black-market trade routes aren't what they used to be. The New Republic covers different territory and has different interests than the Empire and Old Republic did, so whatever routes made Tatooine worth stopping at are either defunct or different, now.
Not directly, but with such a big player in the underworld based there there's bound to be a whole eco-system of scum coming and going. They don't have to be working for Jabba to be selling weapons to hunters, making backroom trades, hiring on crew, plus all of the usual secondary support markets selling food, supplies, entertainment, slaves etc, etc. And Jabba probably gets a piece of every deal...or else. Think 17th century tortuga, but with way more sand.

Keep in mind it wasn't just Jabba that died on that barge but his entire court too. That means with most of his lieutenants gone too, the territory was wide open for every small-time opportunist with a blaster to make a move. That first year alone must have been pandemonium. That's instability is bound to chase off a lot of the usual background level of business. I mean the fact that the hunters guild doesn't even bother maintaining a presence speaks volumes as to how irrelevant Tatooine and Mos Eisley have become to the underworld.

From the looks of things the New Republic hasn't gotten out to Tatooine's end of the outer rim yet (if they ever did.) Which shouldn't be surprising; the old Galactic Republic was a non-entity and the Empire just *barely* maintained a presence prior to ANH. So unless and until one of the cartels or another Hutt moves in, they're pretty much at the mercy of whoever has the muscle.
 
OK, another question. Where the heck is everyone? We visited Tatooine this season and the first season and it sure is quiet as hell there now to how it used to be. Where did those crowds go? Why are the streets not filled with bustle like ANH or TPM? Why is the cantina so somber?

Because Mos Pelgo is a very tiny, very remote town. It's not the same as Mos Eisley or Mos Espa.
 
K, another question. Where the heck is everyone? We visited Tatooine this season and the first season and it sure is quiet as hell there now to how it used to be. Where did those crowds go? Why are the streets not filled with bustle like ANH or TPM? Why is the cantina so somber?
No work, harsh as fuck environment, scrapping to get by. Why the hell would anyone stay if they had the chance to go?
 
The way I see it, Jndland is the main 'continent' (for lack of a better term) and, to extend the analogy all the Mos places are outposts, in the 'sea' sort of like man maid islands on the coastal shelf. Or, since they all have a blud-collar vibe to them probably something in the realm oil platforms. But they were all controlled by the Hutts. And when they left, most of the rigs stopped pumping and people moved out.

However, I think Anchorhead is probably still fairly big relatively speaking*. It's just that it's way at the other end of the wastes.

*I know Wookieepedia describes Anchorhead as "small," but I never got that impression. Any reference to it in side media implies it's pretty good size. And just by what Luke saiys to Obi, suggests that he {logically] assumes it would be Obi's ultimate destination because that's the only place to get public off-world transport - as the only stuff allowed in and out of Eisley are the navy and privateers working for the Hutts (like Han).
 
Here's an informative video that details Cobb Vanth's history from the books and details where the show diverges from it. The video's narrator agrees with Reverend's theory of an unreliable narrator. Actually, in this case, two of them.

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Was talking more about Mos Eisley. Based on season 1, it's very quiet.

Without Jabba, it's no longer a major center of criminal activity. So it's not at all surprising that the "scum and villainy" element has moved on.
 
Here's an informative video that details Cobb Vanth's history from the books and details where the show diverges from it. The video's narrator agrees with Reverend's theory of an unreliable narrator. Actually, in this case, two of them.

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Live action trumps books every day. If there's an inconsistency, ignore the book!
 
How many people would have had a chance to go though?
If another criminal player decided to utilize the vacuum to gain access to a work force and then take them with them rather than stick around on the planet. Or another Hutt, and since the Hutts have other worlds they don't have to stay down on that planet.
 
Live action trumps books every day. If there's an inconsistency, ignore the book!
Well, you do you, but seeing as both versions of the story were told by the characters as part of the narrative rather than an omnipotent third person narrator, I'm more than willing to accept that the truth is somewhere in the middle.
 
Here's an informative video that details Cobb Vanth's history from the books and details where the show diverges from it. The video's narrator agrees with Reverend's theory of an unreliable narrator. Actually, in this case, two of them.

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One telling detail I found with Vance's version of events was the part where he rescued the bartender from the slavers...but when he walked into the bar earlier he just called him "Weequay", like he never bothered to learn his name. Not a direct contradiction or anything but it does seem a little off. Like he's garnishing the facts to make himself look a little more heroic than he really was.
 
I personally don't care all that much for Fett. I never have. But he was always going to be brought back sooner or later. He came back in the old EU, so it's not like this was something new. The character is just too big of a draw. He was going to have his own solo movie until Josh Trank screwed up and got fired. So if he was gonna come back anyway, I'd much rather his return be handled by Favreau, Filoni, and the rest of the Mando team.
 
Of course it does.

More's the pity.

There are so many variables at play in real life, I can't go so far as "of course." Would fewer ppl be watching Mando if there were fewer callbacks and a certain character didn't appear at the end? It's dubious.

I'm glad I'm not as much of a SW fan, b/c a lot of the fanwankery goes over my head. Gus Fring's black lightsaber, I didn't even notice it was special till I started reading about it here months ago.
 
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