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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x07 - "Much Ado About Boimler"

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He behaved like an evil captain right up until the moment he no longer needed to.
It's called misdirection. A good example is the premier episode of Firefly. Simon Tam is presented as dark with a evil secret (cue the ominous music), but it turned out he was actually a good guy doing a good thing and it was the other passenger who was the evil one. It's a standard storytelling trope.
 
He behaved like an evil captain right up until the moment he no longer needed to.

Not every Doctor has a good bedside manner. But he said, clearly, the Farm cures all ailments!

What did you think we meant?

"We thought you were being sinister!"

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Generally, you don't reveal whistleblowers for the exact reason we see.

Oh, you mean when he revealed that Boimler leaked news of the mutiny?

I guess I can understand, but I still don't see how the Captain could have expected that Aging Guy and the rest of the "freaks" would actually try to KILL Boimler.
 
Not sure why it would have the 'NX' designation if it was a repurposed Klingon ship?

Well, Star Trek is kind of inconsistent about the use of the NX registry prefix, so I wouldn't really spend a lot of mental energy on that one. But, "NX" is nominally used for ships that are either the first in their class or ships upon which new technologies are being used experimentally. Maybe the Osler uses an experimental warp drive system and that's why it emerged from those ominous space clouds?

I think it'd be more Lower Decks that the "demonic looking Warhammer ship" isn't a Klingon ship but maybe an Elosian other race that has different design philosophy than human.

It's certainly possible that the Osler was designed by the Edosians for their local fleet and that she was subsequently transferred to the Federation Starfleet. But I think we should remember that ships Starfleet designs aren't Human ships, or Edosian ships. They're specially-built ships that don't necessarily reflect any one Federation Member State's local ship lineages.

However, I still hypothesize it's a Klingon design. The interiors use the same color scheme, same lighting setup, and same door and corridor shapes that Klingon ships use. The external hull has commonalities with the K'ting'a-class and Raptor-class designs, with a relatively cylindrical main section, a bulbous forward section, and sweeping, downward pylons leading out from the main hull at equidistant intervals to the nacelles. And if we pull from the apocrypha, the Osler bears a very strong resemblance to the Jach'Eng-class warship from Star Trek: Armada.

(Side note: OMG, how was Armada 20 years ago???)

Anyway, that's my hypothesis. Obviously nothing definitive but it's my headcannon for now.

At this point i don't if I have to take seriously a humorous tv show, but it was clear that after the tricorders debacle she was embarrassing a friend who had trusted her. After that, the right thing she should have done would be either to behave seriously or to step down. Let's remember that after all their friendship was saved only by the intervention of the space monster. And besides, Mariner basically lied to a friend who asked for her help.

Mariner is a very self-destructive person. I'm looking forward to finding out why she's become like this.

I can understand some resentment toward Starfleet, I admit. However, they pretty much almost murder a bunch of nurses and medical staff for no reason.

I'm pretty sure nobody actually dies or gets seriously injured in this episode.
 
It's possible that the Osler is a joint Klingon/Federation design, incorporating elements from both cultures as a result of one of their alliances. The registry implies it may have been created early in the Dominion War (or shortly before, perhaps as an Anti-Borg troop carrier?). The Federation are the technology kings, but the Klingons are experts at fighting wars, which is something the Feds might be interested in exploring when they found themselves on the verge of a couple of major conflicts.
 
Mariner is a very self-destructive person. I'm looking forward to finding out why she's become like this.
Yes, but in this particular case, her self-destructive tendencies have put other people besides herself at risk. I don't know how important the mission to the bog planet was, but it nearly failed because she purposely "forgot" the tricorders on the ship. And all this for what? Had the space monster not been there, she would have surely lost the friendship and respect of a person who once held her in high regard. At this point I don't even know what kind of rationalizations she may have conceived to justify this kind of behavior to herself.
 
Yes, but in this particular case, her self-destructive tendencies have put other people besides herself at risk.

I don't think anyone's life was in danger and I don't think she would have not brought a tricorder if that were a possibility.

I don't know how important the mission to the bog planet was, but it nearly failed because she purposely "forgot" the tricorders on the ship. And all this for what? Had the space monster not been there, she would have surely lost the friendship and respect of a person who once held her in high regard. At this point I don't even know what kind of rationalizations she may have conceived to justify this kind of behavior to herself.

Yep, she's a fairly messed-up person! She's a far cry from the "always right Mary Sue" people complained about her being at first.
 
I don't think anyone's life was in danger and I don't think she would have not brought a tricorder if that were a possibility.
Well, It seems that would have at least risked compromising diplomatic relations with an alien species, but I would have to see the scene again because I don't quite remember what happened ...
Yep, she's a fairly messed-up person! She's a far cry from the "always right Mary Sue" people complained about her being at first.
Oh yes, absolutely!
 
It should take about 20 years to get to Captain, so you'd be ~42?
This is Starfleet in the future, you can make captain after secondary school...hello Kelvin Kirk!

I always felt Riker did want to be a Captain, He just wanted to be the Enterprise Captain.
In universe it was a selfish attitude to hold, he was a space blocker for others in the lower ranks, the novels tho not canon addressed this issue in the A time to series before the Nemesis film, Riker realised he was in Data's way and was hindering his career

It matters because no one culture should be depicted as being dominant over others in an egalitarian future. "Anglo" should not be the default setting for the human race.
In universe diversity among humans should be the norm, however in universe Starfleet and the UFP are too humancentric anyway whether the humans are diverse or not
 
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