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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x07 - "Much Ado About Boimler"
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Assuming a standard 4 years at StarFleet Academy, you'd probably be 22 y/o at graduation.
It should take about 20 years to get to Captain, so you'd be ~42?
Even in the US Navy, there are minimum number of years you have to be in a rank before even being eligible to be considered for promotion.
And since StarFleet was derived off of US Naval tradition, her StarFleet Captain buddy seems at the right age.
Could that mean Mariner is probably in her 40's as a ensign?
We do know that appearance for certain Ethnicities don't correlate to their actual age.
Mariner can be just really "Young Looking" while actually being older.
There was a lot going on. It felt like it was 2 episodes crammed into 25 minutes. It was an entertaining episode though. I gave it an 8.
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Mid thirties seems more likely, she was surprised her friend had made captain, so it must have been slightly faster than average.
Starfleet isn’t the US Navy. It is a make believe organization that does whatever the plot needs in any given episode.
In "Datalore", Data said to Lore, "If you get one the way I did, Lore, it will mean four years at the Academy, another three as ensign, ten or twelve on varied space duty in the lieutenant grades."
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Then you got folks like Chekov and Uhura with 30 years in as commanders........the promotion system is FUBAR'ed in Starfleet for sure......
Then again, we have every reason to believe Data was being discriminated against, and could expect Lore to be discriminated against as well.
We have basically zero evidence that Starfleet would kick out slackers, in terms of rank progression. It's perfectly okay to get stuck at not just Commander rank, but also at Lieutenant, like alt-Picard in "Tapestry". But we have even less evidence that Starfleet would try to apply brakes on rank, and indeed we have situations where promotion is a straightforward reward for individual services done - something that would instead warrant a decoration in today's military. (When was the last time anybody in Starfleet got decorated, before the past fortnight in LDS?)
Just do good and you get the fourth pip in your fourth working day. Or your second, like alt-Kirk.
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Totally agreed.
Kim would’ve been around 29 when Voyager returned from the Delta Quadrant.
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Freeman appears to be in her late 40s to 50s. So I think it's probably safe to think of Mariner as mid to late 20s.
Mariner's buddy seemed to be late 20s, early 30s to me.
Exactly. Promotions are handled very poorly in Trek and carry as much weight as needed for the given story. Assuming there is any sort of standard akin to the actual US Navy system is being extremely generous with the writers.
Not strictly canon, but Ensign Alans was played by a 44-year-old.
We have something close to an upper bound. Mariner was an Ensign on the Quito in what we may assume is an early assignment prior to her first demotion (and thus her first promotion). If we assume it's 2373 at the earliest, and she was an Ensign for a year at most, that would imply for a 2350 birth at the earliest (~30 years old). Making Mariner's friend close to Riker (c. 2364) in advancement.
But I still think she's a little younger, because six years on the Quito seems a bit much, unless she was demoted from Lt. Commander or something.
Captain Freeman looks to be in her mid 50's to early 60's IMO.
Mariner just looks late 20's early 30's, but given the evidence I'm betting she's in her early 40's.
For being a genetically engineered nightmare creature, The Dog was surprisingly very benign and good natured. If only all experimental monsters were like that.
And Datalore is a 33 years old episode from first season TNG when they clearly hadn't figured out everything about their universe yet.
Besides Star Trek never has had a problem with contradicting or retconning itself.
I see nothing wrong with the idea that Mariner's friend simply attained the rank of captain particularly early.
Plus it's possible that during the time of LD they allowed promising/talented officers to rise through the ranks faster to take the place of Dominion War causalities.
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