what do you think novels are: canon? fanon? fanfic?
If the author has done their job right, entertaining.
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what do you think novels are: canon? fanon? fanfic?
your point seems to be that they choose to have sex whenever, my point is that they don't. canon evidence points to them only doing it every 7 years. the difference to drunk humans losing control is that they're vulcans. did you really miss how rational, controlled, and distant vulcans are? or are you oddly ignoring that?
well... in canon, we bow to the absurd.![]()
canon evidence points to them only doing it every 7 years
Quite so. I would recommend Shatner's "Collison Course." Very entertaining thus far.If the author has done their job right, entertaining.
Precisely so.Obviously it doesn’t, or else you wouldn’t have a spectrum of viewpoints on the subject. You’re simply ignoring evidence that doesn’t support your view.
This!No, I don't think characters are lying; I just don't see any reason to them as literal truth for an entire species.
and you did not notice that they do say A and never say B, and still insist A is fanon and B is more likely?I’ve noticed that they keep their private lives private. Anything else?
list the on-screen evidence that says regular emotion-suppressing vulcans without health problems actually have sex between their pon farrs. when there's nothing there, there's nothing to ignoreObviously it doesn’t, or else you wouldn’t have a spectrum of viewpoints on the subject. You’re simply ignoring evidence that doesn’t support your view.
Precisely so.
And my main problem is categorical statements for an entire species based upon a small sampling. Spock alludes to the possibility of sex outside of the 7 year cycle but he is very much striving to be a Vulcan's Vulcan, with little room for error.
how many vulcans have said they don't do it, and how many have said they do?This!
If Trump was kidnapped by aliens I would not take his views on 'how to treat women' as the views shared by the other 7 billion humans on the planet, OR assume the Pope's traditional Catholic views on sex and contraception is practiced and shared by all Catholics.
when emotion and passion are suppressed, it is not a lie to say you're unemotional and dispassionate.Given how Vulcans are a bunch of dogmatic liars when it comes to having emotions in the first place, I'm not sure how you could ever trust them on being honest about their sex lives.![]()
Shatner is a good example. according to some people here, kirk should be alive in the 24th century and hanging out with scotty and bones. why did we never see or hear from him again?Quite so. I would recommend Shatner's "Collison Course." Very entertaining thus far.
list the on-screen evidence that says regular emotion-suppressing vulcans without health problems actually have sex between their pon farrs. when there's nothing there, there's nothing to ignore
Because I have no interest in the retired adventures of those characters?Shatner is a good example. according to some people here, kirk should be alive in the 24th century and hanging out with scotty and bones. why did we never see or hear from him again?
Ah, so they speak for allhow many vulcans have said they don't do it, and how many have said they do?![]()
list the on-screen evidence that says regular emotion-suppressing vulcans without health problems actually have sex between their pon farrs. when there's nothing there, there's nothing to ignore
Maybe 4th time's the charm? XDShow where it says Vulcans don’t have casual sex? Show the explicit language where a Vulcan has turned turned down sex.
i see. kirk didn't appear in any new show or movie because you personally aren't interested. why did paramount and cbs listen to you?Because I have no interest in the retired adventures of those characters?
Ah, so they speak for all
Vulcans? Never mind Spock's willingness to be with the Romulan commander or his comments to Droxine.
EMH: Tuvok, I understand. You are a Vulcan man. You have just gone without for seven years about.
KOV: Vulcan males are driven to mate once every seven years.
T'POL: On Vulcan, we mate only once every seven years.
PARIS: Ah. This wouldn't be the kind of imbalance that comes around once every seven years?
i see. kirk didn't appear in any new show or movie because you personally aren't interested. why did paramount and cbs listen to you?
Was William Shatner supposed to be Chef or in the Mirror Universe? My memory's fuzzy on this one.Both Enterprise
non-procreative sex? again, pleasure requires emotion and passion. where's the logic in unemotional and distant beings going wild in bed? as i suggested before:Where’s the word sex at?
perhaps the important detail is that they could do it anytime, but they simply don't do it under normal circumstances. does that make more sense to y'all?
they were using mirror kirk and pre-death kirk, not resurrected kirk from the novels.Both Enterprise and the Abrams films wanted Shatner back. Money and size of role couldn’t be agreed on.
And yet your quotes are not substantial evidence. Two are quotes from humans who have limited information. Spock, Sarek, and Tuvok are all notoriously tight lipped regarding information, and even McCoy had limited medical knowledge with Spock coming out of a healing state.if >>50% say A and <<50% say B, then A is the majority view. Flirting with an agenda was addressed before and has no immediate connection to sex.
Nowhere which is the source of some consternation for reasons that continuously elude me.Where’s the word sex at?
sex does not equal wild and passion.non-procreative sex? again, pleasure requires emotion and passion. where's the logic in unemotional and distant beings going wild in bed? as i suggested before:
Was William Shatner supposed to be Chef or in the Mirror Universe? My memory's fuzzy on this one.
non-procreative sex? again, pleasure requires emotion and passion.
He was supposed to be mirror Kirk sent there by the tantalus device. Shatner himself didn't remember any details when I asked him about it XDWas William Shatner supposed to be Chef or in the Mirror Universe? My memory's fuzzy on this one.
where are the quotes supporting your position then? 4 vs 0 is still kinda clear. the entire medical database (EMH) is limited? XDAnd yet your quotes are not substantial evidence. Two are quotes from humans who have limited information. Spock, Sarek, and Tuvok are all notoriously tight lipped regarding information, and even McCoy had limited medical knowledge with Spock coming out of a healing state.
i read it as attraction, curiosity and a bond due to their common ancestry, nothing more.And Spock indicates that he and the commander shared something more. I'm sure it was just coffee though![]()
"mating" on my side, nothing at all on your sideNowhere which is the source of some consternation for reasons that continuously elude me.![]()
ah, so you mean the mere mechanics of it? what would be the reason for doing it then, if you're an emotionally suppressed and logical and distant vulcan?sex does not equal wild and passion.
i require desire. XDSomeone isn’t married!
Do you require emotion and passion to masturbate?
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