The Monster Maroons
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Hadn't heard that, but it's certainly possible.
A pity that isn't the case in real life. Apart from the pilot episode uniforms, TMP, and the new shows (Picard Starfleet, Lower Decks, and the Enterprise uniforms of Discovery) they're one of the shortest lived.
Conversely, apart from the costumes used in each of the main series, they're the longest lived.
The white-or-tan insets on the TWOK jackets weren't linings, but lapel facings - the lining was a pretty common shiny black rayon or polyester material.
The intent was that captains and flag officers would have white facings and lower ranking officers would have tan.
Most background characters in that film wore the re-dyed and re-detailed jumpsuits from TMP. It's possible that in later films there were simplified versions of the maroon jackets made for background actors and extras, but the one TWOK jacket that I examined was for a medical crewman who had no lines and it was a fully-constructed version. It's just possible that it was repurposed from one of the main actors for some pick-up shots in the ship's corridors, as the sleeves had been shortened from its original tailoring by about three inches.
The intent was that captains and flag officers would have white facings and lower ranking officers would have tan.
Most background characters in that film wore the re-dyed and re-detailed jumpsuits from TMP. It's possible that in later films there were simplified versions of the maroon jackets made for background actors and extras, but the one TWOK jacket that I examined was for a medical crewman who had no lines and it was a fully-constructed version. It's just possible that it was repurposed from one of the main actors for some pick-up shots in the ship's corridors, as the sleeves had been shortened from its original tailoring by about three inches.
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That's because the wool gabardine shrinks.
I was talking more about the design. They were overdesigned, much like I think the Disco stuff won’t age particularly well for the same reason.
I think the Monster Maroons has the most variety that I enjoy of the uniforms, aside from the TOS or Kelvin Universe. I personally love how iconic they are and still think they look sharp.
I'm not crazy about the look, but that's just personal taste. What I'll never get is why the radical shift from the simple, streamlined look of TOS and TMP to the cluttered, blinged-out look of WOK, and the change from everyone wearing the same basic uniforms to drastic differences between officer and enlisted.
Robert Fletcher designed the monster maroons based on Meyer's direction. Memory Alpha says this:
(And more at the source, including testing different colors and going with maroon)Memory Alpha said:
It's hard to tell if Meyer thinking of the 1937 film adaptation of The Prisoner of Zenda, or the 1952 remake. Since Memory Alpha refers to the "stiff black collar," the 1937 version is more likely, since the 1952 version doesn't seem to have black collars. So here is what the uniforms looked like in the 1937 film:
And here's a trailer for the 1952 version for comparison:
the TWOK uniforms are actually rather subdued in design, compared to all the ornamentation on the 1952 costumes!
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The costumes are but one thing I dislike about Meyer’s take on Trek. And since they are constantly on view in TWOK-TUC it really taints my view of those films. They simply don’t look of the same universe as the Star Trek I love and prefer. Hell, i was very critical of TNG and yet it looked like the Star Trek universe I knew.
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They both suck.
which are better?
I liked the ID dress uniforms. Just needed some color.
Nah, not nearly ridiculous enough looking for that.
