My drawings of the TOS ENTERPRISE
- Thread starter Jim Botaitis
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Well, the jog has to occur anyway, but let's see if I can demonstrate why I placed the drop further aft:
DECK 6
1. The turbo-elevator does not reach the engineering machine shop, located on Deck 6, just ahead of Engineering, to starboard.
2. There is no way to deliver a turbo-elevator to the turbo-elevator maintenance shop, located on Deck 6, just ahead of Engineering, to port.
DECK 8 DORSAL
3. The vertical shaft is too close to the forward "disconnection equipment"; there would be very little space around it for access / maintenance.
LANDING LEG
4. The hole caused by the vertical shaft is too close to the hinge line; this makes the leg weak.
DECK 9 DORSAL
5. As above, the shaft is too close to the forward "disconnection equipment"; if it is right up against the forward hull (the thick black line on my plan) there is no way to get to the disconnection equipment for maintenance.
6. If it is right up against the forward hull, the horizontal shaft splits the deck. The ladders make it difficult enough to get from front to back; I did not want to create issues getting from left to right.
7. There is no space for a Jefferies Tube (JT) to get to the forward disconnection equipment. The ladders exist as backup, but I wanted the JT to be the main access.
Oh man, I had a good laugh from this! I hope Lower Decks will feature interactions like this. You know, the "normal" stuff people do. Awesome!
I did think about doing this, but there is only 1 problem. The hole through the landing leg for the turbo-elevator shaft is too close to the leg's tip, and the leg is getting narrow at that point. I think it weakens the leg too much.Then you drop make the jog on what you have as deck 8.
I tried the link to view your HAYDEN-Class Scout but none of the images worked. Where can I see the work you've done? Is it in SKETCHUP? I started SKETCHUP about 6 months ago. I love it.
Yeah, that kinda sucked. But if you have SketchUp installed, I can do you one better: here's the model! And there's some extra pretties in my DeviantArt gallery, if you're interested in renders
What about using the ladder adjacent to the turbolift? Climb down 1 deck, take the short corridor to the triangular ladder, down another deck, cross to portside and up you go!
(Click for a closer view. Hand-drawn call-outs in red are story locations.)
A Friendly Visit
Late one evening on Stardate 3336.9, Ensign Sonia Forbes answered an intercom hail from Ensign Brooks. That Ensign Brooks. The one who had been intruding on her thoughts the last two weeks. The one she kept staring at when she thought no one was looking. A chance encounter yesterday during a depressurization drill gave them a few minutes to talk and she'd been grinning ever since at the realization that Brooks shared her interest.
Her heart pounded as she was invited to Brooks' cabin. A quick glance at the Master Deck Plans revealed that she was not only on the same deck as Brooks, but only a few meters away. How romantic! But that thought withered at the sight of the turboshaft separating them. I'll have to take the long way around! The extra distance added to the urgency and, after quickly checking her hair and uniform, she dashed out the door of her cabin. (a)
(b) It struck her that she had two cabin-mates who might hear her running if she wasn't careful. She trusted Hayward's discretion, but Statmore treated gossip like candy and shared it liberally with everyone. Half the ship would know what Forbes was up to if Statmore found out! So she hit the brakes and tiptoed until she passed their shared bedroom.
(c) Forbes couldn't resist a tinkling laugh as she hurried along to her rendezvous, but (d) had to cover that with a cough as she worked around an environmental maintenance crew trying to secure an O2 leak at the next corridor intersection.
Once past that obstruction, she sprinted, and (e) nearly collided with a laughing group of crewmen stumbling excitedly out of the turbolift. "Hey, Forbes! Where's the plasma leak?" one of them shouted teasingly. She didn't know who it was, she just laughed an embarrassed apology and tried to keep her pace to a fast walk until they were out of sight (f).
(g) The corridor ahead was clear, with no one to block her, so she kicked into a fast run and bolted around the curving passage. She let another laugh tinkle from her mouth and--
(h) --abruptly ran into Lieutenant Kev. Kev came up the intersecting corridor carrying two handfuls of data cartridges, a couple readers, and a notepad; all of which went flying on impact!
"I'm sorry, Lieutenant! Here, let me help" Kev looked completely disoriented and soon started mumbling his own apology for being too engrossed in his work. Forbes knew she shared the blame, but she let the lieutenant believe what he would. "I'm sure we're all like that now and then. Is that all your cartridges," she asked as she handed him the tapes she'd collected. Not that she waited for an answer, she was already moving on, sparing quick glances to make sure the bewildered Kev was steady on his feet.
(i) Closing now on her destination, she realized Brooks likely had similar quarters to her own, with two sleeping cabins separated by a shared office, so she again slowed to a quiet tiptoe until she arrived at Brooks' quarters.
(j) Her eyes fixed on the door chime and suddenly she realized how disheveled she must look. And she was panting! That wouldn't do! She walked in circles as she calmed her breathing and brought her appearance under control. Cool and calm. It's just a friendly visit!
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Help Ensigns Forbes and Brooks find better routes for rendezvous on Deck 6!
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I've had a chance to look through the plans in greater detail, and, @Jim Botaitis, this is an outstanding project.
I like that there are alternate versions of decks 6 and 7. I completely approve of the handling of the engine rooms.
The burning question that I have is, where is the crawlway leading to the matter-antimatter reaction chamber shown in "That Which Survives"? I would assume that it would be in one of the nacelles (or one such crawlway in each)? If that is the location, perhaps that would be a reason to show more detail of the areas that can be entered safely at least for a relatively short time there.
On the question of the emergency manual monitor, @Donny cited a height for it on the stage above the main deck of the engineering set in this post: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/donnys-tos-enterprise-interiors.212119/page-150#post-12323855. You might be interested in seeing Starship Exeter's take in how it fits together also referenced in that post or in the immediately preceding one.
I agree that the reduction of the number of emergency transporters is appropriate. It might be worth mentioning that other arrangements of the 22 pads are perfectly plausible, besides those by Franz Joseph, with of course different spatial trade-offs. For example, there's this more circular arrangement:
Again, great work. Thank you for sharing!
I like that there are alternate versions of decks 6 and 7. I completely approve of the handling of the engine rooms.
The burning question that I have is, where is the crawlway leading to the matter-antimatter reaction chamber shown in "That Which Survives"? I would assume that it would be in one of the nacelles (or one such crawlway in each)? If that is the location, perhaps that would be a reason to show more detail of the areas that can be entered safely at least for a relatively short time there.
On the question of the emergency manual monitor, @Donny cited a height for it on the stage above the main deck of the engineering set in this post: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/donnys-tos-enterprise-interiors.212119/page-150#post-12323855. You might be interested in seeing Starship Exeter's take in how it fits together also referenced in that post or in the immediately preceding one.
I agree that the reduction of the number of emergency transporters is appropriate. It might be worth mentioning that other arrangements of the 22 pads are perfectly plausible, besides those by Franz Joseph, with of course different spatial trade-offs. For example, there's this more circular arrangement:
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* * * *Again, great work. Thank you for sharing!
There is one bowling lane. Just one. It is aft of the swimming pool, Deck 21. It runs left-to-right, not front-to-back, so you might not recognize it.I posted the link Cygnus X-1 to Jim's deck plans over on the Star Fleet Battles board. Someone complained that he left the bowling alley out.
Thank you for the comments and feedback and ideas.
I will watch TWS again to refresh my memory and report back here. I was probably thinking it was in the nacelles or in the pylons.
I have watched some STARSHIP EXETER episodes, but don't recall the EMM appearing. I will check that out too.
I am glad you like the alternate deck layouts to allow for 3 engine rooms. However, I now can't recall what dialogue or what episodes suggested this ...
I inadvertently repeated the FJ design. It was subconscious. I had space remaining on Deck 7 and this shape is what fit within that space. The Emergency Transporters were the last items I added. I was going to not have any, but then I read a reference to them in TMoST. Still, 5 such units is overkill.
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I assure you it was not I.I posted the link Cygnus X-1 to Jim's deck plans over on the Star Fleet Battles board. Someone complained that he left the bowling alley out.
8:28 in "The Tressaurian Intersection". (PS, I highly recommend watching the entire episode. It's terrific.)
That's some brilliant use of creative (and budget friendly) film making!
I updated the link on my website.
I have also expanded the number of sets. They can now all be found here:
http://www.jbot.ca/blueprints.shtml
I have also expanded the number of sets. They can now all be found here:
http://www.jbot.ca/blueprints.shtml
The crawlway leading to the matter-antimatter reaction chamber shown in "That Which Survives" is located in each engine nacelle.
I show it on the CUTAWAY sheet. The NOTES explain that the area is heavily shielded.
I show it on the CUTAWAY sheet. The NOTES explain that the area is heavily shielded.
Very nice combination of rigorous thought and creative talent. Well done.
@Jim Botaitis ... mind if I post your link over on the Star Fleet Battles board??
I think Steve Cole might be very interested in talking to you.
(DISCLAIMER I do not work for Steve Cole and obviously can't speak for him.)
I think Steve Cole might be very interested in talking to you.
(DISCLAIMER I do not work for Steve Cole and obviously can't speak for him.)
