Donny's TOS Enterprise Interiors

[Donny]

By the way, guys. Here's a very EARLY work-in-progress shot of the Warp Engineering Room, using a wide-angle-lense to show the way the ceiling is set up, which we never saw completely on screen. (Due to the wide angle, proportions are very distorted). I've been working hard all weekend at getting the dimensions of the engine room just right. Of course, we see many different configurations of the Season 2 and 3 engine room over those two seasons, and I'll be creating my "idealized" version.


I'll also create an "Impure Engineering Room" later that's more akin to the version we saw in Season 1. Stay tuned for regular updates!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

By the way @Donny. You might (or might not!) be interested in the fan film Starship Exeter's take on what the emergency manual monitor looks like when viewed from the main engineering floor.

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Their model of main engineering is first seen around 8:25.

 

[Donny]

By the way @Donny. You might (or might not!) be interested in the fan film Starship Exeter's take on what the emergency manual monitor looks like when viewed from the main engineering floor.

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Their model of main engineering is first seen around 8:25.

Nice. I like theirs, but I'm leaving mine at the actual height the monitor room stood off the floor of the stage (roughly 5.6 feet is what I've gathered) so that I can have the ceiling beams symmetrical, as I have them. Any higher off the stage floor and I'd destroy the symmetry of the ceiling beams by needing to raise the bottom edges of them up on the monitor room side. I also want the view out of the monitor room to match what we see in the show.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Nice. I like theirs, but I'm leaving mine at the actual height the monitor room stood off the floor of the stage (roughly 5.6 feet is what I've gathered) so that I can have the ceiling beams symmetrical, as I have them. Any higher off the stage floor and I'd destroy the symmetry of the ceiling beams. I also want the view out of the monitor room to match what we see in the show.

One thing they were evidently going for is to try to integrate all versions of the engine room into a kind of single hybrid that wasn't necessarily seen on the original show, as I gather from the EMM sitting atop the "turbines" that were distinctive of the season one engine room.

I can't wait to see what you're going to put under the EMM.

 

[feek61]

@feek61, you continue to be an invaluable resource. Thanks!

Always happy to help. Your work is amazing and I LOVE the engine room so far. Looking forward to seeing it progress.

 

[137th Gebirg]

One thing they were evidently going for is to try to integrate all versions of the engine room into a kind of single hybrid that wasn't necessarily seen on the original show, as I gather from the EMM sitting atop the "turbines" that were distinctive of the season one engine room.

I can't wait to see what you're going to put under the EMM.

I kind of got the impression that one version of the engine room was in the primary hull, behind the impulse deck (Franz Joseph style) and the other version was in the secondary hull (Okuda style). Uncut walk-through scenes to the engineering room from the curved corridor supports the existence of the first version, and Spock's "lower decks" comment and curvature of the vaulted ceiling supports the existence of the second version.

 

[Tallguy]

Ah, the location of Engineering. (*Smiles politely and agreeably.)

What can we talk about next? What direction the bridge faces?

 

[137th Gebirg]

It bubbles up to the surface every once in a while.

 

[feek61]

For what it's worth, the 2nd - 3rd season main engine room was 4' shorter than the 1st season engine room (20' vrs 24').

 

[UssGlenn]

I kind of got the impression that one version of the engine room was in the primary hull, behind the impulse deck (Franz Joseph style) and the other version was in the secondary hull (Okuda style). Uncut walk-through scenes to the engineering room from the curved corridor supports the existence of the first version, and Spock's "lower decks" comment and curvature of the vaulted ceiling supports the existence of the second version.

Also the entity exiting the secondary hull in Day of the Dove after floating through the wall of Engineering.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yep, that too.

 

[Donny]

Ah, the location of Engineering. (*Smiles politely and agreeably.)

What can we talk about next? What direction the bridge faces?

Ha! Well, for what it's worth, my "Warp Engine Room (Season 2/3 Configuration)" will be in the secondary hull (exact location to be determined) while my "Impulse Engine Room (Season 1 Configuration)" will be in the primary hull, near the impulse engines.

 

[GNDN18]

Ha! Well, for what it's worth, my "Warp Engine Room (Season 2/3 Configuration)" will be in the secondary hull (exact location to be determined) while my "Impulse Engine Room (Season 1 Configuration)" will be in the primary hull, near the impulse engines.

An elegant and diplomatic solution that satisfies.

Where’s Mr. Scott?

(With apologies to @Donny, Ralph Senensky, Jerry Finnerman, and the fish-eye lens.)

 

[Donny]

Here's a lighting test after two nights of struggling to get the dimensions of the engines just right. For my purposes, I've built it as a force-perspective set. I obviously still have to add the lit parts up top and the decals on the pipes.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Donny, you may want to look at what comic artist John Byrne did with his version of the TOS engine room. He eventually added an office for Scotty right above the main entrance, since it was an area we never saw on the show.

You can find some in-progress shots here.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Here's some more shots of Byrne's engineering model, with more development on Scotty's office above (I like the diagonal windows, allowing Scotty a nice view of engineering underneath).

 

[Donny]

Here's some more shots of Byrne's engineering model, with more development on Scotty's office above (I like the diagonal windows, allowing Scotty a nice view of engineering underneath).

Interesting idea, but a little too obstrusive for my tastes. I was planning on making the little alcove we see in "Elaan of Troyius" be the Chief Engineer's Office, although I always kind of saw the entire engineering complex as Scotty's office

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Interesting idea, but a little too obstrusive for my tastes. I was planning on making the little alcove we see in "Elaan of Troyius" be the Chief Engineer's Office, although I always kind of saw the entire engineering complex as Scotty's office

Yes, but this line in "The Naked Time," spoken in the corridor outside engineering, implies that Scotty's office is somewhere above the main engineering complex:

SCOTT: And he shut the door behind us and locked off the mechanism.
KIRK: Can't you get to the auxiliary?
SCOTT: I can't. He's hooked everything through the main panel in there. Get up to my office and pull the plans for this bulkhead. The only way to get that door open is to cut through these wall circuits here.

And if that alcove area was Scotty's office, it certainly wasn't accessible when Riley sealed off engineering.

Anyway, food for thought.

 

[Donny]

Damn one-off lines ruining all my plans

On that topic though, I always imagined Scotty's office to hold a series of hard-copy schematics of the Enterprise stored in a similar fashion to the way schematics of the Janus VI complex were stored in "The Devil In The Dark":


Implementing this in my project will be a neat opportunity for some interaction

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Oh, I like that idea! Makes total sense.