Maybe they filmed some additional scenes that got deleted in production. Maybe the writers were planning some stories with the two of them but changed their minds before filming started. Or it was just marketing hype.
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Maybe they filmed some additional scenes that got deleted in production. Maybe the writers were planning some stories with the two of them but changed their minds before filming started. Or it was just marketing hype.
I haven't noticed other than he seems a lot more sorrowful now than he was before. His scene when he's apologizing to Chloe is something I wouldn't have seen him do in the first season.
I probably would have been a little more angrier if they were hyping Rush and Simeon up as rivals as well. They really didn't have any scenes together, as Rush spent most of his time on Destiny's bridge. This episode might be where this "rivalry" came from, but you can't have a "rivalry" with only one episode.
I get that actors/writers/producers are excited for their show and want to promote it. But it is a bit annoying when they hype something up only for it to be really disappointing for the audience.
Yeah. The Discovery writers actually did the same thing in Season 2. Promise more development for the bridge crew only for it to be dropped a few episodes into the season. That's really annoying.
Resurgence
Good episode but a quieter episode for a midseason finale. The Destiny finds salvage, finds out it was from a battle and discovers drone ships. They are surprised to learn that Telford is still alive and on the seed ship and the Aliens from that ship (Awakening) are called the Ursini and need Destiny's help in destroyed the command ship which will take out the drones. Chloe has transformed enough to become almost robotic and the Destiny is taking a pounding from the drones as we head to midseason.
I loved that Telford came back and the seeder ship is playing a part in this story. That was quite a way to end the episode too, with Destiny pretty much no where to run and Chloe did something as she broke out. I really liked the scene between Rush and Eli with Rush telling Eli he has potential and he needs to get over Ginn's death. Hopefully this will push Eli to a new level in the back half of the season.
Good episode but a quieter episode for a midseason finale. The Destiny finds salvage, finds out it was from a battle and discovers drone ships. They are surprised to learn that Telford is still alive and on the seed ship and the Aliens from that ship (Awakening) are called the Ursini and need Destiny's help in destroyed the command ship which will take out the drones. Chloe has transformed enough to become almost robotic and the Destiny is taking a pounding from the drones as we head to midseason.
I loved that Telford came back and the seeder ship is playing a part in this story. That was quite a way to end the episode too, with Destiny pretty much no where to run and Chloe did something as she broke out. I really liked the scene between Rush and Eli with Rush telling Eli he has potential and he needs to get over Ginn's death. Hopefully this will push Eli to a new level in the back half of the season.
"Resurgence" is part 1 of the mid-season two parter. "Deliverance" is part 2.
I hope it's ok to say that the drones become a major enemy in the second half of season 2.
I know.
Deliverance
Well, that lived up to the first episode. It ended some arcs (Chloe's transformation) and began some new interesting ones (the blue aliens having the ships data and the drone ships). Some of it was a little predictable, such as the Ursini going for the suicide run, but it was still very entertaining and set up some hopefully great things for the back half of the season. I especially liked Chloe and Rush at the end with Rush admitting that Chloe wasn't the only one who has changed and he has a more open mind based on what he's seen. Also I have to say ever since Trial and Error, Young has really become a great commander. He's encouraging the people around him, he's clear in his commands, and he has really become an amazing character.
Yeah, Young really started off as a pretty bad leader IMO in season 1 because he lacked self-confidence but he finally found his confidence and style. And he's really bonded with the crew.
Also, I really like the Beserker Drones. I like that there is no leader. They are truly just a technological force, in this case, autonomous drones just following their programming.
And now, it's nothing but good episodes all the way to the end.
Wouldn't one say that the command ship is their "leader". I mean it's all technological, but you destroy the command ship and the drones themselves go offline.
Twin Destinies
I really liked that episode, but I think my head is a little confused by the time travel elements. So the 12 hours in the future Destiny opens the Wormhole to earth and Telford is the only one that goes through. Everyone else didn't make it and then the temporal displacement happens sending Rush back to the new timeline Destiny. Because this Destiny didn't attempt dialing to earth, shouldn't that mean that Telford shouldn't exist, because he was killed off? They changed the future, or because Telford did go through before the time thing happened, he's just continuing on with the earth timeline. Time Travel can be confusing.
Despite that, this episode was great. I loved seeing the two Rush's together, and now they have pretty much doubled a lot of their supplies for the mission. Also, there was a McKay reference. I actually know episode 15 is a bit of Stargate Atlantis crossover show which I'm looking forward to, but I chuckled at the McKay reference scene.
I really liked that episode, but I think my head is a little confused by the time travel elements. So the 12 hours in the future Destiny opens the Wormhole to earth and Telford is the only one that goes through. Everyone else didn't make it and then the temporal displacement happens sending Rush back to the new timeline Destiny. Because this Destiny didn't attempt dialing to earth, shouldn't that mean that Telford shouldn't exist, because he was killed off? They changed the future, or because Telford did go through before the time thing happened, he's just continuing on with the earth timeline. Time Travel can be confusing.
Despite that, this episode was great. I loved seeing the two Rush's together, and now they have pretty much doubled a lot of their supplies for the mission. Also, there was a McKay reference. I actually know episode 15 is a bit of Stargate Atlantis crossover show which I'm looking forward to, but I chuckled at the McKay reference scene.
They mentioned another command ship after they destroyed the first one.
Yes. The command ships control their batch of drones but there are many command ships. And there is no leader of all the command ships. Basically, You just have a bunch of these autonomous command ships with an AI programmed to seek out and destroy foreign technology. And the command ships will go out and launch their autonomous drones against a detected target.
I think Future-Destiny time traveled 12 hours into the past before Telford goes through the wormhole to Earth. So when Telford and the rest of the expedition go through the unstable wormhole, the Destiny was already in our timeline. That is how Rush can still exist even though they change the future. But yes, time travel can be confusing:
The crossover episode with McKay also goes to an important planet in SG1. See if you recognize the name of the planet.
Alliances
The stones are really inconsistent in this franchise. If one host body feels pain or is damaged in any way, the other host body should also feel it. That's what happened with Daniel and Vala (Even though for them they were actually unconscience, until the second time in which Vala used the stone to get into Daniel's body) and we know that if you die in a host body, the other host dies too. When I saw the rubble fall on Wray and Greer, I was asking myself why weren't the Senator and Coval impacted as well? I think the Stones, while they do serve some useful purposes are really the worst thing about this series.
Other than that, it was a decent episode. The Lucian Alliance attacking Homeworld Command was shocking but this allowed Wray and Greer to have some nice scenes together. I also like that Verro now has more to do.
The stones are really inconsistent in this franchise. If one host body feels pain or is damaged in any way, the other host body should also feel it. That's what happened with Daniel and Vala (Even though for them they were actually unconscience, until the second time in which Vala used the stone to get into Daniel's body) and we know that if you die in a host body, the other host dies too. When I saw the rubble fall on Wray and Greer, I was asking myself why weren't the Senator and Coval impacted as well? I think the Stones, while they do serve some useful purposes are really the worst thing about this series.
Other than that, it was a decent episode. The Lucian Alliance attacking Homeworld Command was shocking but this allowed Wray and Greer to have some nice scenes together. I also like that Verro now has more to do.
Even though it's sort of the same tech I think it's different because in the first one on Stargate remember the village people were unconscious at Stargate command where with this type of machine people on both sides of the connection can walk and talk and function.
Jason
The next episode "Hope" deals with this. It follows up on what happened to Ginn and Amanda Curry when Simeon killed Ginn's body with Amanda's mind in it.
Hope
That was terrific. I really loved both plots, the one featuring Chloe/Ginn/Amanda and the other with Greer and Volker. I loved the banter in the infirmary, and I think this is the first time I have actually let a little laugh out for Stargate Universe. The scene where they were playing the 2001: Space Oddessy theme gave me a chuckle, and I loved Greer and Volker hanging out in the botany room and the actual surgery, especially with Greer screaming in agony but he was only joking. As for the Ginn/Amanda/Chloe story, this was a pretty good use of the stones after I complained about the last episode being a little confused by it. Here Chloe is asleep and Ginn and Amanda appear pretty randomly. It was great to see Mandy and Rush together and Eli getting to spend time with Ginn was really touching, especially after how distraught he was for losing her.
Based on the way Rush described Franklin being "downloaded" into Destiny's memory and now so are Amanda and Ginn, I was reminded of Picard and the various Holographic Rios on the La Sirena. Destiny itself is like one big holo-emitter.
That was terrific. I really loved both plots, the one featuring Chloe/Ginn/Amanda and the other with Greer and Volker. I loved the banter in the infirmary, and I think this is the first time I have actually let a little laugh out for Stargate Universe. The scene where they were playing the 2001: Space Oddessy theme gave me a chuckle, and I loved Greer and Volker hanging out in the botany room and the actual surgery, especially with Greer screaming in agony but he was only joking. As for the Ginn/Amanda/Chloe story, this was a pretty good use of the stones after I complained about the last episode being a little confused by it. Here Chloe is asleep and Ginn and Amanda appear pretty randomly. It was great to see Mandy and Rush together and Eli getting to spend time with Ginn was really touching, especially after how distraught he was for losing her.
Based on the way Rush described Franklin being "downloaded" into Destiny's memory and now so are Amanda and Ginn, I was reminded of Picard and the various Holographic Rios on the La Sirena. Destiny itself is like one big holo-emitter.
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