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Hey, I never noticed that before....

Was watching I Mudd today and I wonder why they didn't just you know [ Norman out of existence in the 4 days he held the ship captive.
I mean if I was Kirk and for 4 days I had to come up to the bridge with Norman blocking my way, the ship under his control, it would have taken me about a day and a half before Norman would have been a heap of molten metal.
Kirk seems a lot more chill here than when the Riddler took his ship for a taxi ride in Season 3.
To me it seems ridiculous that they couldn't regain control of the ship after 4 days or that Scotty couldn't have phasered the Alice that dragged him off the ship.
Nevermind the logistics of Norman getting on the Enterprise in the first place.

Yet another episode where McCoy warned his senior officer that something was wrong but Spock ignored him. Perhaps Spock should have been on report for that.

Was McCoy serious about Norman being strange, or was he just teasing Spock about how weird a crew member who behaved like Spock was? And what were the other times McCoy warned something was wrong and wasn't listened to?
 
Was McCoy serious about Norman being strange, or was he just teasing Spock about how weird a crew member who behaved like Spock was? And what were the other times McCoy warned something was wrong and wasn't listened to?
The Alternative Factor: Something was wrong with Lazarus with his head wound appearing and disappearing. Kirk ignored him.
Amok Time: Spock is acting strange and threatened to break his neck. Kirk says he didn't notice anything wrong. (Soup hits the wall.)
 
Was McCoy serious about Norman being strange, or was he just teasing Spock about how weird a crew member who behaved like Spock was? And what were the other times McCoy warned something was wrong and wasn't listened to?
"The Enemy Within" - although Spock did investigate and thought McCoy was playing a joke.Wrongly.
"The Man Trap" - McCoy tells Nancy looks young when Kirk sees her as older and is dismissed by Kirk.
"Shore Leave" - McCoy tells Kirk about the white rabbit and he doesn't take it seriously.


The episdode makes it pretty clear that Norman has rigged the ship to explode if he gets tampered with:

NORMAN: I am in total control of your ship. I have connected the matter-antimatter pods to the main navigational bank. A trigger relay is now in operation. Any attempts to alter course will result in immediate destruction of this vessel.
KIRK: Spock?
SPOCK: Confirmed, Captain. He's taken out all the override controls. If we tamper without knowing where the trigger relay is, we could extinguish ourselves.
...
NORMAN: I control the trigger relay, sir. I cannot be overcome by physical means, and if you attempt to use your phasers, the trigger relay will be activated.
They had 4 days to find it. I mean maybe they were scrambling all over the place to stop their ship from blowing up. It didn't seem like it. I mean could the Enterprise could destry planets. Could they let it get in an enemy's control.

Still, four days to overcome this obstacle is about a dozen times longer than John McClane or Jack Bauer would have, and somehow they always manage. And I sort of see Kirk as the Sledge Hammer type anyway: "trust me, I know what I'm doing" would be his attitude to everything, very much including defusing the nuclear explosive.

Timo Saloniemi
Exactly

Maybe the crew were really intrigued to meet whom had wanted to get hold of their ship and crew that or Mr.Norman really did have them at a disadvantage?
JB

Maybe Kirk followed his gut and decided that eventually he could outsmart any computer/robot/android threat.
 
Harry Mudd episodes always had the comedic value and this one takes that to the absurd! Very embarrassing! :shifty:
JB
 
So really all they needed for their fight with Control was James T Kirk.

Kirk: Your prime directive is to analyses and forecast threats therefore I submit YOU are a threat. Cary out your prime directive.....

Control then self destructs.
 
Kirk following his gut is actually a character trait, and especially in matters of self-destruct - Kirk just doesn't have the guts to kill himself for greater good. The only self-destruct he is willing to engage in is one he can control and use for bluff and blackmail, then abort. When his officers suggest the other sort in "By Any Other Name", with the fate of the entire galaxy at stake, Kirk just plain doesn't want to die, and thinks the officers are nuts.

Wrestling control back from madmen who are about to blow up the ship is a favorite pastime of his, too. But those are already on to it like Khan, not blackmailing Kirk with the possibility like Norman.

Agreeing to wait is another Kirk forte: in "The Menagerie", he apparently sits a whole week on his thumbs watching illegal broadcasts from Talos IV! Or at least Spock at the start of the episode said the trip would take six days at maximum warp, even if we only ever see events amounting to half a day.

So the gentle touch and the wait-and-see attitude would really be classic Kirk here. Provided, that is, that the situation really were dire and the initial attempts at defusing the bomb had already been frustrated off screen.

Timo Saloniemi
 
NORMAN: I am in total control of your ship. I have connected the matter-antimatter pods to the main navigational bank. A trigger relay is now in operation. Any attempts to alter course will result in immediate destruction
In let this be your last battlefield, kirk was willing to destroy the enterprise because another was in control.
 
In "Jouney to Babel", Kirk has his boots on after being operated on.
Id be happy just to get my underwear back.
I wonder if that happens all the time in TOS.
Also McCoy walks into a corridor full of ambassadors complaining about them. I suppose McCoy isnt known for his diplomacy.
Chapel has to leave the operation to speak to Scotty about emergency power yet there were heaps of people in Sickbay afterwards. You'd think that McCoy would have a couple of people assisting him with such a delicate operation.
McCoy cracks jokes indicating he doesn't know what he's doing when Amanda's standing a few feet away.
Actually Chapel comes off quite professional in this episode.
I watch this episode yesterday on television and they cut the scene where Spock talks about being a donor to Sarek with the Rigelian ?blood thingy which I've forgotten the name of since I didn't see it. Lucky I remembered the scene happened from the one or two times I've seen the episode before
 
In the era of hyposprays, open heart surgery is performed without removing the shirt. Although patients can fill a form if they want their tie loosened or the upper button opened.

Timo Saloniemi


Must have been grey goo going into the body and doing the fixing.
 
This is Trek in general and sorry if I'm stupid and this is a well-known 'flaw' in Trek. But I only just today heard this from a YT clip:

Where are all the F*****G offices and desks???

Picard has one, (Wait, McCoy has one too. Lucky bugger) but where the **** does everyone else do their work? In their quarters?? In the rec rooms? The former seems kinda weird and the latter not conducive to good work. Now that I think about it...and man is 'Way To Eden' getting a lot of press around here lately, Spock IS doing some scientific work in his quarters!

Also, on the bridge, there's no really good flat surfaces you would want to use to set a report down to do more than sign off on it. Can you see Kirk sitting in the command chair trying to write something out on those clipboard thingies? First he sets it on the chair arm, it falls off. he does it again and the ship goes to red alert or a few 'ion storm measuring pods' get jettisoned. Then he settles for putting it in his lap.

I can totally see a frustrated Kirk spin a yeoman around so he can use their back as a flat surface.


On another subject, I assume we've covered what an insanely (literally) boring job Helm and Navigation must be 99% of the time. maybe Sulu can watch movies on that weapons viewscreen thing he has tucked away.
 
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Kirk would probably just go to his cabin, he was seen at his desk there often enough. Spock also. Scotty had an office with engineering plans. Why would any of the lower ranks need them? They have advanced consoles and workstations. On all of the submarine tours I've been on, I didn't see a bunch of desks and offices for people. I'm assuming it's not your question, so I'll just say "jeez what a stupid thing to ask." :shrug: This isn't a modern law film or something. Since Roddenberry made it a point to say everyone has their own room, nobody would need offices and workstations with desktops and printers and whatnot.
 
We have to accept that there were a lot of things we simply never got to see—the limitations of having a constrained budget. Franz Joseph’s blueprints did a fair job of fleshing out many of the things we know had to be there, but we just never got to see—even if some of what he did contradicted what we saw onscreen. For example he showed us an Emergency Bridge yet no Auxiliary Control whereas we did see Auxiliary Control in the series.
 
I don't think a sub makes for a good analogy.

Now, that I've looked at the Bridge stations more closely. There is a good deal of room besides all the buttons. (Why are all the surfaces at an angle? Does this prevent carpal tunnel?) Maybe there's some kind of lip just high enough to keep a clipboard from sliding off.

Though it's hilarious to picture Uhura picking up her chair, and moving it a few feet to the right, to get a better angle.

Maybe certain rec rooms are time-portioned out. What room was the meeting in Balance of Terror and Where No Man Has Gone Before held in? A rec room?
 
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Kirk would probably just go to his cabin, he was seen at his desk there often enough. Spock also. Scotty had an office with engineering plans. Why would any of the lower ranks need them? They have advanced consoles and workstations. On all of the submarine tours I've been on, I didn't see a bunch of desks and offices for people. I'm assuming it's not your question, so I'll just say "jeez what a stupid thing to ask." :shrug: This isn't a modern law film or something. Since Roddenberry made it a point to say everyone has their own room, nobody would need offices and workstations with desktops and printers and whatnot.

What I've seen of actual modern Navy ships, way back when the History Channel was about serious things instead of pop culture and memorabilia, showed that the executive officer of an aircraft carrier had a desk in his quarters to work at. It was more cramped and cluttered than what Kirk and Spock had, but essentially the same idea.
 
The performance the crew and Mudd put on? I think absurdity was the whole point.

I never thought of it before, but now I'm wondering if "I, Mudd" might have invented the Distributed Denial of Service attack:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

Norman is the server, the website, that the androids depend on. Kirk turns the androids into a bot army that floods Norman with useless signals. That would not happen in real life until 1996.
 
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