Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Warped9, Aug 1, 2015.
Maybe we should start a "Subtle Shatner" thread so we can properly appreciate all these moments.
Sounds good since I've always appreciated the subtle, nuanced work he did.
A non-Shatner moment but
In That Which Survives....when Scotty tells Spock "It's stuck!!"....that subtle bit where Nimoys face falls is brilliant.
Watching "Errand of Mercy" on H&I right now, and was once again reminded that the place where Kirk & Spock phasered some Klingons on Organia is the same spot where Pike and Vina fought the Kaylar.
^ Wow, I never noticed that before! Cool.
In the Shatner vein, my favorite didn't-notice-it-for-years acting moment was in The Naked Time, when Sulu was on the bridge with the sword. Specifically, the "Put -- put that thing away!" shot of Shatner. Watch it back in slow motion as Kirk puts his hand on the sword tip. His entire facial demeanor, in about a half second of real time, completely changes as he apparently realizes the potential threat level of the situation (not sure how else to describe it). It's mostly in the eyes...but it is amazing how he could manipulate his expression so subtly and so quickly!
I think the secret of good acting is that he didn't manipulate his facial expression. He was "in the moment" and genuinely felt what Kirk was supposed to feel.
OTOH, I often thought "Sisko" on DS9 was deliberately contriving his facial expressions. He may have been a natural on Spenser (I didn't watch that show), but I think DS9 needed a lead with better training.
To me, it looks like Shatner was genuinely concerned at Takei's excitement waving the thing around.
Avery Brooks had a pretty extensive stage career both before and after DS9.
As Shatner tells it, he was.
I often got the feeling that Sisko as portrayed was striving to control his emotions, especially rage. Indeed, his animosity with the Vulcans seemed motivated in part by his wanting to show them he could control his emotions as well as they did, yet still be able to express them.
Okay, but maybe stage acting didn't make him a good actor for the screen. Maybe his stage style projected deliberate facial expressions to the last row, while on-camera work favors the understatement and subtlety that come from forgetting your face and just feeling the part. And I'm sure it's impossible for a TV actor to really do that all the time, but when it can be done, it's magic.
It looks like the top of the arches might have been modified?
Yeah, looks like.
Stage and screen acting are somewhat different. There’s a great video of Michael Caine teaching this to other actors.
I decided that a "Subtle Shatner" thread was actually a good idea, so here it is. Please share your favorite Subtle Shatner moments over there.
If Kirk was on the ship refusing to engage the planet killer, I think Decker would still have pulled rank and attempted to take command of the ship. Decker outranked Kirk. It's not just because Kirk wasn't on the ship.
I think Commodore Decker would have to be in charge of a squadron or task force, or a part of the overall fleet, that the Enterprise belonged to. Decker would have to be in Kirk's direct chain of command, and in the Enterprise's direct chain of command, not just a higher guy in Starfleet.
I say this because, due to rampant grade inflation, the U.S. Navy has more admirals than ships. Just being a mere admiral isn't the big deal it used to be. But the Navy is very particular about whom they entrust with commanding a ship. You don't just get it for your rank and seniority. You have to pass through a fine screen and be chosen to command that ship.
Decker's command of the Constellation obviously means he passed through the fine screen, and his command of the Enterprise suggests the two ships were "under the same flag," possibly Decker's flag. Add the fact that they were cut off from radio contact with headquarters, and Decker has all the authority in the world. But he needed all three conditions, or the story might be different.
Kirk would do the exact same thing in person that he did once he got in contact with the Enterprise: order security to escort Decker to Sickbay; and take his lumps in a court martial if they survived the encounter.
Was watching Day of The Dove the other night, and just noticed Uhura holding a dagger when she leans over Kirk's chair as she wanders out loud why Chekhov thinks he has a brother. Possibly the same one as Mirror Mirror?
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