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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

I'd rather see fifty cookie-cutter post-NEM starships that look recognizably late 24th century than more DSC Era starships that were so popular we never saw them in TOS, the TOS Movies, TNG, the TNG Movies or DS9. ;)

To be fair, those movies didn't get out much.

I don't think too much about the "why didn't we see them before?" question. We just didn't....good enough for me.

And 200 identical Starfleet ships vs 200 identical Romulan ships? Doesn't bother me much either. It was more about the story and that SF was riding to the rescue.
 
I would think that Oh would have known that if that were the case, seeing as how she infiltrated Starfleet and became the director of Starfleet security.
Well, yes, probably. But maybe she did, and that just meant she knew exactly how screwed she was.
 
Unlikely. If she knew that all the ships were empty and controlled by Riker's ship, all she needed to do was destroy the Zheng He and the rest of the fleet would be useless.
 
Unlikely. If she knew that all the ships were empty and controlled by Riker's ship, all she needed to do was destroy the Zheng He and the rest of the fleet would be useless.
Assuming I'm right, which I fully admit that I'm pulling all of this right out of my butt, so I'm probably not, but for the sake of argument: 1. There would probably be more than one control (but hopefully not CONTROL) ship out of all of that, and 2. I don't think we have onscreen confirmation that the Romulans know which ship even IS the Zheng He. They all certainly look enough alike, and if Riker was controlling all of them with some sort of multicast setup, he could've had that signal coming from any of them.
 
Assuming I'm right, which I fully admit that I'm pulling all of this right out of my butt, so I'm probably not, but for the sake of argument: 1. There would probably be more than one control (but hopefully not CONTROL) ship out of all of that, and 2. I don't think we have onscreen confirmation that the Romulans know which ship even IS the Zheng He. They all certainly look enough alike, and if Riker was controlling all of them with some sort of multicast setup, he could've had that signal coming from any of them.

It’s all good; I’m not trying to downplay your idea. I just think that Riker wasn’t going to get away with any subterfuge with Oh because she knows everything Starfleet knows.
 
It’s all good; I’m not trying to downplay your idea. I just think that Riker wasn’t going to get away with any subterfuge with Oh because she knows everything Starfleet knows.
And I agree. That was part of my point: maybe no subterfuge was necessary. Oh could have known all of that, been familiar with the logistics of it, and that could have been part of the reason she backed down: she knew the Romulan fleet she was commanding couldn't match it.
 
My original theory was that a lot of Riker's armada were holograms to fool Oh into thinking that Starfleet had sent a huge force but not only did the episode not support that but Oh and her Romulan sensors would have detected that something wasn't right.
 
My original theory was that a lot of Riker's armada were holograms to fool Oh into thinking that Starfleet had sent a huge force but not only did the episode not support that but Oh and her Romulan sensors would have detected that something wasn't right.
Yeah that wouldn't work on a former Head of Starfleet Security as she would know about the technology.

All the ships are probably real, we could see some of them being crewed by Holograms as they were not outlawed which is a bit silly really, they may not have physical bodies but they are just as dangerous as androids are.

Building that many ships is no problem, crewing them all is another matter though.

It looked like she was weighing her option and was finally swayed by Picard's conversation with Soji, must admit I half expected her to tell him to "shut the fuck up", everybody else does. :biggrin:

Personally I would have ordered the fleet to annihilate her ship, she knows too much about Starfleet operations and can still spread the admonition to other victims, the Romulan's would disavow her and hope that the Federation won't decide to wipe them out for it.
 
I probably would have gone all Captain Blood and blown her away too, but considering the circumstances, Riker’s goal was one of deterrence and not to start a kenetic war with an equal number of Romulan ships, which would certainly have happened had he taken her out. The death toll would have been quite horrific. In the end, I think he made the right choice there.
 
I probably would have gone all Captain Blood and blown her away too, but considering the circumstances, Riker’s goal was one of deterrence and not to start a kenetic war with an equal number of Romulan ships, which would certainly have happened had he taken her out. The death toll would have been quite horrific. In the end, I think he made the right choice there.
I think so too. War should not have been their first response especially if they want to carry forward peace with the Romulans, which is also tenuous.
 
Wondering if we can get a look at what the "factory-standard" edition of the F17 Speed Freighter looks like on Kaplan Schiffbau's version of a showroom floor.
 
STO is adding a La Sirena inspired ship.

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11422643
I say inspired, because while it looks nearly identical, they scaled it up so it could be used a small Starship instead of a small craft. They did scale down the windows so they don't look out of place.
You aren't wrong about this version being scaled-up. At all.

Also, they describe their version as a "heavy raider"? Really? I might argue for "Q-Ship".
 
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