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Brian Brophy didn’t return?

I didn't say he sucked, i just said that he was one note character designed to be an antagonis and I don't think that Brophy's performance warranted asking the actor to return the role. Obviously they brought him back because of his connection to Data. But really the way the character has been used, they could have created a new character.
Creating a new character is more preferable to me at this point in time because of the outrage and near-castigation of CBS by accusing them of maleficence towards Brophy. It's all too conspiratorial.
 
My whole thing is that they did this HUGE build up to finding Maddox. If they hadn’t repeatedly invoked his name dramatically throughout EVERY episode, I probably wouldn’t have noticed the recasting. But since they did make him a big deal, the fact that it wasn’t the same guy kinda took me out of the episode, which was already getting a bit embarrassing with the Halloween bit.
Did Maddox show up? Yes. So name dropping him in earlier episodes has a pay off.
 
Like others have said: recastings have happened before. Many, MANY times for various reasons. This doesn’t bother me in the slightest. While the character of Bruce Maddox might have been mentioned several times throughout the entirety of Trek, he appeared in exactly one episode. While the episode itself is memorable, the only line I remember of Brain Brophy’s is two words, delivered over the top: “A machine!”

I’m sorry that this bothers some people. I really am. But the fact that this needed an entire thread? Come on.

But, I will say, some people? I think they just need to be up in arms about... something. And it gets a little exhausting.
 
Like others have said: recastings have happened before. Many, MANY times for various reasons. This doesn’t bother me in the slightest. While the character of Bruce Maddox might have been mentioned several times throughout the entirety of Trek, he appeared in exactly one episode. While the episode itself is memorable, the only line I remember of Brain Brophy’s is two words, delivered over the top: “A machine!”

I’m sorry that this bothers some people. I really am. But the fact that this needed an entire thread? Come on.

But, I will say, some people? I think they just need to be up in arms about... something. And it gets a little exhausting.
I get wanting the original actor as it would be a nice touch. But, becoming upset to the point it ruins one's view of a show? I don't get it.

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I get wanting the original actor as it would be a nice touch. But, becoming upset to the point it ruins one's view of a show? I don't get it.

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Like I said: Some just need to be up in arms about something. It’s honestly okay to just not like a show and leave it at that. It’s also okay to stop watching something if it bothers you as much as it seems to some.
 
Like I said: Some just need to be up in arms about something. It’s honestly okay to just not like a show and leave it at that. It’s also okay to stop watching something if it bothers you as much as it seems to some.
Exactly so.
 
I didn't say he sucked, i just said that he was one note character designed to be an antagonis and I don't think that Brophy's performance warranted asking the actor to return the role. Obviously they brought him back because of his connection to Data. But really the way the character has been used, they could have created a new character.
It's not about his acting warranting his return (whatever that means; he wasn't bad) but the fact that the character returned. If it's between creating a new character and non-Maddox-Maddox, then a new character would have been less irksome.

Nah I'm good thanks.
Why? If they could bring Brophy back, then why not? There's nothing to be "good" about creatively, since we don't know why Brophy didn't return. It sounds to me like you're just being petty for fan reasons, not creative ones.

To be honest if I was Brian Brophy I'd legit spin some sob story about how evil CBS stopped me from playing my most iconic role and start some type of crowdfunding account. Let the rabid anti-cbs crowd give me their hard-earned money then abscond with it to some tropical island.
So contemporary life can be strange and kinda shitty, true.

If I was showrunner, and I wanted to use Bruce Maddox for an episode, as he's integral to the story, and Brophy turned me down (even though all indications is that he wasn't even approached), I would still use Maddox and recast him with an age-appropriate actor.

But I would then tell everyone what went down in the aftershow, just to end all this useless speculation. Unless Maddox is revived or brought back often via holograms and flashbacks, I don't know why they needed to recast for the one episode and like, three scenes. Accusing Theatre Professor Brophy of bad acting despite decades of onscreen appearances feels like armchair quarterbacking to me. I'm sure he can look upset, frantic and then in agony via poison or murder. Those are the easiest types of acting styles there are (in my expert armchair opinion).
So, yeah, this. Again, my idea was if you're going to recast, at least show us a picture of the guy earlier on so we're not expecting something else for 5 episodes. I was kind of looking forward to seeing an actor I, or most, hadn't seen in a while. Tarantino famously spoke to this in his casting of Kill Bill.

Creating a new character is more preferable to me at this point in time because of the outrage and near-castigation of CBS by accusing them of maleficence towards Brophy. It's all too conspiratorial.
I don't know that it's conspiratorial or outrage-inducing, but it does warrant some discussion on a fan bulletin board, yeah.
 
I don't know that it's conspiratorial or outrage-inducing, but it does warrant some discussion on a fan bulletin board, yeah.
Reading the OP indicates there is outrage there. Reading Reddit has confirmed this same emotion. Yes, I have seen the outrage and the emotional flailing about this.

Discussion is one thing. But, I'm seeing emotions raging over this too. Which is more strange to me.
 
Reading the OP indicates there is outrage there. Reading Reddit has confirmed this same emotion. Yes, I have seen the outrage and the emotional flailing about this.

Discussion is one thing. But, I'm seeing emotions raging over this too. Which is more strange to me.
That's contemporary fandom. But I'm glad to hear others lament the Brophreeness of the series. I'd like to know what happened at least. ...maybe. I honestly don't even care so much as think they wasted an opportunity to include a couple familiar faces. Give me those easter eggs, not Mr. Mott's Hair Emporium.
 
When I found out Jeffery Hunter wasn't playing Pike on Discovery, I cancelled my CBS subscription right away.
Smart. That's the move right there. That will teach them to not have a necromancer available!
That's contemporary fandom. But I'm glad to hear others lament the Brophreeness of the series. I'd like to know what happened at least.
Great. I don't like it at all. In a fandom about supposedly enlightened humanity and "intelligent science fiction" it would be nice if we didn't always succumb to fandom tropes.
 
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