Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 11, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - An honorable episode.

    12.5%
  2. 9

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  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - The writers should commit seppuku.

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  1. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I actually think Picard was a total poon hound during tng, he was just so private about it that no one knew, not even the writers.
     
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  2. Yistaan

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    The problem is that as the last remaining Federation cyberneticist of any prominence, she would have been in attendance of other robotics conferences, which by nature of the Fed synth ban would be on non-Federation worlds. The unique nature of her situation makes her more likely to be in space, not less.

    Think of how Klingon Dr. Antaak went in disguise to medical conferences on Enterprise because Klingons didn't fund science much. I can totally see Dr. Jurati being a token invite to Grand Nagus Rom's new Ferengi-produced "friendly helper android" line press conference, because the Ferengi would be allowed to build synths and they would totally make moves to profit from the sudden lack of Federation synths.

    When the Bush admin banned stem cell research, researchers still went overseas to conferences to catch up on the latest advances.
     
  3. Lord Garth

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    Vash ("Captain's Holiday"), Kamala (implied in "The Perfect Mate"), Marta (at least in the Q version of "Tapestry"), Darren ("Lessons"). Then there's his past. Jenice ("We'll Always Have Paris"), Vigo ("Bloodlines"), and it looks like there were sparks flying with Louvois ("The Measure of a Man").

    Looks like he averaged one, past or present, per season.
     
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  4. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    They knew. Just look at his choice in sleepwear.

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. cooleddie74

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    It's an oversight of the writers. They thought it would sound endearing if the Federation's most knowledgeable cybernetics expert was stuck on Earth because of the Synth ban and the withdrawal of resources. Problem is Trek has already proven over the decades that science experts don't just stay on Earth all the time because, well, there's a Federation and there are such things as warp drive and other species who hear about your work.
     
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  6. Yistaan

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    Well, you know Trek is franchise that gave us the lonely scientists cliche :rommie: ( http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/cliches1.htm )--

    Lonely scientists
    The Federation clearly has many uninhabited Class-M planets available for colonization. But it is still remarkable how many planets have just a handful of scientists as their only inhabitants - or at most just as many as a starship like the Enterprise (-D) could evacuate in an emergency. While it still makes sense that possibly hazardous installations like the Tantalus Colony in TOS: "Dagger of the Mind" or Darwin Station in TNG: "Unnatural Selection" are isolated, it is a cliché that ingenious scientists always seek the loneliness of a planet of their own, like Korby in TOS: "What Are Little Girls Made of?", Cochrane in TOS: "Metamorphosis", Flint in TOS: "Requiem for Methuselah", Graves in TNG: "The Schizoid Man" or Soong in TNG: "Brothers".
     
  7. cooleddie74

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    At least with Cochrane he was taken there to save his life and kept there by a noncorporeal life form with a protective, loving instinct to keep him healthy and alive.
     
  8. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Maybe it was suggested bad things might happen to her if she left the planet? She only got the nerve to go after the firefight at Chateau Picard.
     
  9. Yistaan

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    After he apparently ditched Earth for Alpha Centauri ;)
     
  10. cooleddie74

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    Yep. All the fame and adoration after First Contact turned him into Greta Garbo. ;) He just wanted to be "alone."
     
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    He'd heard there was an island there with money trees and lots of women and a lack of clothing stores.
     
  12. cooleddie74

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    That'll do, Z. That'll do. :p
     
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  13. Maurice

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    The second least subtle thing in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is that Cheron is in the "Southernmost part of the galaxy". Selma system, perhaps?
     
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  14. Bad Thoughts

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    On the other hand, Earth did monopolize a number of premier institutions within the Federation: Star Fleet Command and Star Fleet Academy (San Francisco), Federation government (Paris), Pennington Institute (New Zealand), and of course, Daystrom (Japan). It might be easy never to leave Earth.
     
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  15. Bad Thoughts

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    It's better than the alternative interpretation: Tierra del Supermassive Black Hole.
     
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  16. AlanC9

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    Said failed relationship turning out to be literally the only thing standing between the Planetary Union and total destruction. I gotta give them props for being all-in on the premise.
     
  17. Spot261

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    Similar to DS9?

    I did a TOS rewatch about six months ago and frankly a lot of it seemed cringeworthy. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but what became readily apparent was how much our tastes and expectations have changed in terms of TV making. It may or may not have been visionary at the time, YMMV, but the common complaint that DIS (which was the newest Trek at the time) is more hamfisted looked decidedly weak to say the least.

    Can you imagine the idea of Picard discovering a planet where white savages named after "Yangs" (Yanks) were using torn up copies of the Pledge and the constitution to justify terrorising the more civilised yellow skinned "Kohms" (Commies)?

    Would the Youtube comments section survive the explosions?
     
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  18. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Is she though?
     
  19. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    She claims to be. But she could be exaggerating a lot to get a free ride into that place filled with amazing stuff.
     
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  20. DaveyNY

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    What if ... the first time Maddox sees Dr. Juarti, he tells everybody she was just his assistant.
    And all she has is a PHD in skin textures.


    Perhaps she has been a 'plant' for a very long time?
    And she is part of the reason he decided to 'disappear'?
    :wtf: