Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"
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Romulans don't have much technology in evidence even in the best of cases - see "Unification". Probably not related to poverty at all, but to aesthetics or tradition or whatnot.
Timo Saloniemi
Yet, they managed to harness what is essentially a Miniature Black Hole to power their starships.
I don't think we can use the folks on Vashti as a shining example, they have very much become stuck on what is now apparently considered a backwater planet.
Heh ... I can 'techno-babble' with the best of them.that is in fact rather easy but as you don't like techno babble ...
But many times around here, it gets as tedious as trying to read all of Bernd's episode reviews in one sitting.
Ok, there's a bit of confusion on my part here. The Romulan senator is alive right? He got out, even if its in poverty now. Yeah I get he's mad at Picard for not being able to follow through on saving Romulus, but everyone knows it's not his fault and literally the only reason the Senator's around to duel Picard is because of Picard himself.
No offense to anyone, I couldn't find a better analogy, but this strikes me like ending the movie Schindler's List with Schindler's rescues attacking him because he wasn't able to save everyone else. Which would have been really odd.
No offense to anyone, I couldn't find a better analogy, but this strikes me like ending the movie Schindler's List with Schindler's rescues attacking him because he wasn't able to save everyone else. Which would have been really odd.
But that doesn't appear to be the case. Instead, Romulans choose not to have annoying blinking screens everywhere, even at the height of their power. They don't lack technology, they just choose not to look at it when they don't have to. So the lack of visible tech here isn't proof of absence of tech. Although it's obviously not proof of its presence, either.
It seems to me they are attacking him because his promises of an Allied relief force made them stop preparing for the Big Jewish Uprising wherein they would have massacred the Germans coming for them, organized big convoys out of the country, and finally sent a volunteer with the Red Bomb to finish off Berlin.
The Senator would have been one of the men with the means to do something about the evacuation, but Picard's promises made him redundant. Until it was too late.
Timo Saloniemi
Ah, that makes more sense.
I think Jean-Luc showing up was apparently starting to put a cramp in the hierarchy of how things were now being done on Vashti.
I believe that Senator "Ichabod Crane" was mainly using what happened in the past to rile up the crowd and retain his power over the others.
I really don't see any other reason for him to have wanted to kill Picard at that point, when it would have been just as easy to be done with Jean-Luc when he first showed up.
I believe that Senator "Ichabod Crane" was mainly using what happened in the past to rile up the crowd and retain his power over the others.
I really don't see any other reason for him to have wanted to kill Picard at that point, when it would have been just as easy to be done with Jean-Luc when he first showed up.
This episode is my highest rated yet, a 9. Not that I felt that the first three episodes were slow or in any way bad, on the contrary, I really enjoyed the world building and having the time to adjust to the reality of having jumped 20 years and everything that comes with that. It really helped me handle my nostalgia and rose tinted glasses in a healthy way and adjust, though I didn't realize it entirely before this episode.
All in all, aside of minute details (like for the atmosphere a tad too many cuts and camera work in the first couple of minutes - I'm looking at you, Frakes!), I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. The time for acceleration of the plot and the way it was executed thoroughly pleased me.
I'm sure to discover one or the other great detail or nitpick with a rewatch. But that's a big plus with a story with this much worldbuilding and exploration of the characters.
All in all, aside of minute details (like for the atmosphere a tad too many cuts and camera work in the first couple of minutes - I'm looking at you, Frakes!), I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. The time for acceleration of the plot and the way it was executed thoroughly pleased me.
I'm sure to discover one or the other great detail or nitpick with a rewatch. But that's a big plus with a story with this much worldbuilding and exploration of the characters.
I don't find it too problematic. I know a number of scholars whose work has never taken them out of the United States. Jurati could have been the one organizing all the cybernetics conferences to take place on Earth.
We already know, from Picard's and Sisko's families, that not all people get out into space. Would that have implications on one's life, either in terms of esprit or, if one is engages with technology, career? Could someone spend an entire lifetime researching a subject on Earth without exhausting it?
Except we know Earth wouldn't really be having any significant, if any, cybernetic conferences for the past 14 years. It's far more likely Grand Nagus Rom would invite Jurati to Ferenginar or something to help the Ferengi's new profitable "friendly helper robot" line or whatever, especially now that the Federation won't make those anymore.
If she were a grad student, fine. But she's called the leading cyberneticist short of Maddox.
To be fair, her dialogue has wiggle room and maybe she was in space before. After all, Joseph Sisko was all but said to have died on his first mention and showed up alive later on. Archer's dad died when Archer was 12 but still gave him flight school advice somehow (Archer must have been a kid pilot like Anakin Skywalker). Trek's had worse contradictions.
Here's the quote from the film:
SHINZON: As happens frequently here on Romulus, a new government came to power. They decided to abandon the plan. They were afraid that I might be discovered and that it would lead to war. ...Not quite the face you remember.
PICARD: Not quite.
SHINZON: A lifetime of violence will do that. They broke my nose, my jaw. ...But so much is the same. The eyes, surely you recognise the eyes.
So they hand-wave a few differences, but ultimately we're meant to accept that a photo of Tom Hardy in the Starfleet uniform was young Picard. Though I'm not sure if they touched up the photo.
Forgot those lines. Fair enough.Here's the quote from the film:
SHINZON: As happens frequently here on Romulus, a new government came to power. They decided to abandon the plan. They were afraid that I might be discovered and that it would lead to war. ...Not quite the face you remember.
PICARD: Not quite.
SHINZON: A lifetime of violence will do that. They broke my nose, my jaw. ...But so much is the same. The eyes, surely you recognise the eyes.
So they hand-wave a few differences, but ultimately we're meant to accept that a photo of Tom Hardy in the Starfleet uniform was young Picard. Though I'm not sure if they touched up the photo.
Where else would we expect cybernetic research to take place on a level on par with the creation of the synths, not to mention sophisticated androids like Data?
harmon rapp(sr) tapes anyone?
he knew he was dying so i can easily implement that - my-head-wise, that is
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the only thing that threw me off with the photo is i was always under the impression Picard had hair back when he was that young. Maybe it was implied?Here's the quote from the film:
SHINZON: As happens frequently here on Romulus, a new government came to power. They decided to abandon the plan. They were afraid that I might be discovered and that it would lead to war. ...Not quite the face you remember.
PICARD: Not quite.
SHINZON: A lifetime of violence will do that. They broke my nose, my jaw. ...But so much is the same. The eyes, surely you recognise the eyes.
So they hand-wave a few differences, but ultimately we're meant to accept that a photo of Tom Hardy in the Starfleet uniform was young Picard. Though I'm not sure if they touched up the photo.
He did. In the flashback Q shows Picard of him being stabbed by the Nausicaan Ensign Picard had hair in his twenties. It was a continuity error on behalf of NEM's producers.
