I'm liking the show so far but...

[fireproof78]

I think facing what was coming, the Sisko had a moral imperative to do whatever it took to defeat the Dominion by any means necessary. but that he became squeamish about Sec31 doing the same thing (successfully) later, seemed a bit odd.

Why would it be odd? He was clearly uncomfortable with the decision he made, and even with the whole "I think I can live with it" statement his body language betrays a lack of confidence in the moral imperative he felt.

To be faced with a similar situation would be just as uncomfortable as before.

 

[BillJ]

I think facing what was coming, the Sisko had a moral imperative to do whatever it took to defeat the Dominion by any means necessary. but that he became squeamish about Sec31 doing the same thing (successfully) later, seemed a bit odd.

Was it that he was squeamish over their actions or their lack of oversight?

 

[XCV330]

Why would it be odd? He was clearly uncomfortable with the decision he made, and even with the whole "I think I can live with it" statement his body language betrays a lack of confidence in the moral imperative he felt.

To be faced with a similar situation would be just as uncomfortable as before.

But he seemed willing to actively work against Sec31's biological tactics, even knowing they were working.

 

[BillJ]

But he seemed willing to actively work against Sec31's biological tactics, even knowing they were working.

Biological warfare seems to be a big "no-no" for the most part. Apparently even Hitler wanted no part of it.

 

[BillJ]

it is, hence

It isn't a variant, it is the exact opposite.

So which way do you send the switch?

 

[fireproof78]

But he seemed willing to actively work against Sec31's biological tactics, even knowing they were working.

Probably because he didn't trust Section 31 (for good reason) and didn't agree with the use of biological weapons, something that became problematic when the forger asked for biomimetic gel in "In the Pale Moonlight."

 

[BillJ]

Probably because he didn't trust Section 31 (for good reason) and didn't agree with the use of biological weapons, something that became problematic when the forger asked for biomimetic gel in "In the Pale Moonlight."

Yet Sisko ended up giving in to the demand.

 

[XCV330]

Biological warfare seems to be a big "no-no" for the most part. Apparently even Hitler wanted no part of it.

He employed gas warfare on a level never seen before or since, but he used it on unarmed victims.

Hitler was afraid of reprisals, mostly when it came to chemical attacks. He knew the US had already stockpiled a huge amount of mustard and phosgene and would probably have used it on Germany in near genocidal levels in bomber raids if he'd been foolish enough to try it first. That he'd been the subject of a gas attack in WW1 might have played into his thinking, as well.

 

[BillJ]

He employed gas warfare on a level never seen before or since, but he used it on unarmed victims.

I was talking about on the battlefield.

 

[Longinus]

I was talking about on the battlefield.

Yes, using WMDs on civilians is certainly much more justified!

 

[Hythlodeus]

So which way do you send the switch?

personally? I stay the hell away from lorries

 

[BillJ]

Yes, using WMDs on civilians is certainly much more justified!

Well, no, that wasn't what I was saying at all. But thanks for perverting it to score a point.

Bravo on your cleverness.

 

[XCV330]

Well, no, that wasn't what I was saying at all. But thanks for perverting it to score a point.

Bravo on your cleverness.

I did not mean to imply that, for what its worth.

 

[fireproof78]

Yet Sisko ended up giving in to the demand.

Which is why I think is reticence with Section 31 makes far more sense.

 

[BillJ]

I did not mean to imply that, for what its worth.

I didn't feel that your comment did, which was why I liked it. You covered a base that I should have in my original comment.

 

[Kor]

It probably would end up as fencing or something.

Or boules, a French form of lawn bowling.

Kor

 

[XCV330]

Or boules, a French form of lawn bowling.

Kor

Completely off topic but I got to play that once, and it was a lot of fun. I liked it considerably more than bocchi, and the setup isn't as complicated.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

He was shaken at the end of the episode, then he was fine in the next one, and there was no blowback from the murder conspiracy emotional or otherwise. So I guess the message was that murder conspiracies are fine and dandy and totally will get the job done. Not exactly a moral I am hoping to see in a Star Trek show.

Moral? It's not PBS kids.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Why would it be odd? He was clearly uncomfortable with the decision he made, and even with the whole "I think I can live with it" statement his body language betrays a lack of confidence in the moral imperative he felt.

To be faced with a similar situation would be just as uncomfortable as before.

^This. Sisko knew what he did had to be done for the Greater Good. Just as Kirk knew, Keeler had to die for the Greater Good. That doesn't mean he was ever really comfortable with the situation and it clearly did affect his actions and his ethical standpoints later on.

 

[Longinus]

Moral? It's not PBS kids.

Yes, because Star Trek certainly is famous for it's stories never having a firm moral stance!