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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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DS9 was some of the greatest Trek ever produced. Both hopeful and accepting of a universe that was cold, unforgiving and dangerous. Humanity in the 24th century IS a lot better and more tolerant and compassionate than it is now but it's not a utopia, nor should it be.
 
Circling around back to the Picard vs. Clancy scene, like I said I would earlier.

Clancy was right. Picard does have a lot of fucking hubris. He waltzes right in, thinking he's like Kirk in the TOS Movies. There's an emergency, he thinks Clancy will reinstate him, oh, and he'll even take a demotion to Captain. He already has the whole thing mapped out. He's thinking he'll get his ship, whatever it is, and he'll go off on his merry way. Right? Wrong.

Yeah I loved this scene. Don't know why everybody hated it?
 
Because the alternative is that they speak like 21st century BCers?

I keep seeing this impression some people have that Discovery is filmed in BC. It's filmed in Toronto, over 4000 km away. And the new Section 31 show will be filmed in Mississauga, a suburb of Toronto.

Not that I expect anyone to be able to distinguish between a Vancouver accent versus a Toronto accent. I don't even know if I could.

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I keep seeing this impression some people have that Discovery is filmed in BC. It's filmed in Toronto, over 4000 km away. And the new Section 31 show will be filmed in Mississauga, a suburb of Toronto.

Not that I expect anyone to be able to distinguish between a Vancouver accent versus a Toronto accent. I don't even know if I could.

https://thegww.com/exclusive-cbs-al...-begin-filming-may-4th-in-mississauga-canada/
My comment had nothing to do with where Enterprise is filmed, merely the fact that many current productions are filmed in Vancouver.
 
Romulan Free State Sounds very similar to Irish Free State, now Romulan are part of a confederation with the federation of planets?
 
In order for that to be the case, the pinnacle of Star Trek would have to be TNG Season 1. That's an opinion I have to sharply disagree with.
All I'm saying is that after TNG, everybody wanted a darker more brutal version of Star Trek where the Federation is corrupt and everybody is an insufferable <bleep>. I love DS9, but stuff like Section 31 proved that Trek had gone too negative and then the reboot happened. Picard is the first Trek in a long time to actually feel hopeful and that's because Stewart wants to go back to the original vision of Roddenberry.
 
So you're saying she's fully functional? ;)
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All I'm saying is that after TNG, everybody wanted a darker more brutal version of Star Trek where the Federation is corrupt and everybody is an insufferable <bleep>. I love DS9, but stuff like Section 31 proved that Trek had gone too negative and then the reboot happened. Picard is the first Trek in a long time to actually feel hopeful and that's because Stewart wants to go back to the original vision of Roddenberry.
Which vision and which Roddenberry? ;)
 
DS9 was some of the greatest Trek ever produced. Both hopeful and accepting of a universe that was cold, unforgiving and dangerous. Humanity in the 24th century IS a lot better and more tolerant and compassionate than it is now but it's not a utopia, nor should it be.

Yeah but humanity should have evolved beyond secret genocidal death squads like Section 31. Good people forced to do very bad things is perfectly acceptable and very Trek and they should have stuck with that.
 
I think part of what we're seeing is people (especially writers) love that deep-state spy mystery thriller stuff. Look at Kurtzman body of work and that theme keeps popping up. It's not that its a bad thing, but in many ways it pulls back to the themes from films like the Nolan Batman trilogy or Scarface. The only thing people love more than seeing a hero rise up is a hero being torn down and self destruct and then rediscover/redeem themselves.
 
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