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How many Maquis members were on Voyager?

Basically not a threat for a possible mutiny; simply padding the walls for Janeway to be the grand Captain of all Captains without the obstacles nor the consequences of being in alien space with no allies, an obedient balls-less 1st officer who could never challenge her in any silly decision she made throughout the series. What the series could've been if the odds were even where there were as many Maquis as Starfleet personnel? Stranded in a foreign galaxy would have to inject compromises or chaos would happen frequently. Such a missed opportunity to not attempt a sub-culture on Voyager; there was a lot of potential stories to be told looking at different facets of the Maquis, and that doesn't mean it has to be the ridiculous and idiotically extreme mindset like the 1 dimensional villain Seska.

Not having more conflict from Chakotay was a missed opportunity, and the few times they tried he's often put on the losing side, just for dramatic effect. Like in "Scorpion". If there was an episode where he was right in a verbal tussle against Janeway, I missed it or don't remember it.

Oh well. At least we got those renowened Holodeck stories such as Fair Haven :shifty:
 
Euh, Tuvok was NEVER a member of Maquis, even brainwashed. He only simulated his condition to better deceive Chakotay (remember when the latter ordered Tuvok to shot Janeway as a loyalty sign. Tuvok obeyed until it was time to shoot. That's at this time, he slightly deflected his shot to reach Cakotay instead of Janeway.
36 then.

Not having more conflict from Chakotay was a missed opportunity, and the few times they tried he's often put on the losing side, just for dramatic effect. Like in "Scorpion". If there was an episode where he was right in a verbal tussle against Janeway, I missed it or don't remember it.

Oh well. At least we got those renowened Holodeck stories such as Fair Haven :shifty:
He's just too handsome to be a convincing rebel. What can ya do? He'd be a great candidate for Mentos commercials
 
Zero, and I don't think anyone died in this season, so all 30 make it home safely
 
Oops, I forgot about poor Joe Carey. Such a nice fellow.

Killing Hogan was the most outrageous, undeserved death in all of Star Trek. He was like the nicest, humblest, most agreeable, cool guy down in engineering.

Neelix: "Hey Hogan, go pick up those bones piled up in front of that cave! Survival! Survival! I'm an overexcited survival expert! I'm so excited. I just can't stop talking and moving, and jumping around!"

Hogan(thinks to himself)"Gee, I really like Neelix, but why is he giving orders? Does he have training for this kinda thing? Is this safe? Is Neelix taking Klingon amphetamines?"
"Neelix? Where are you? Did you leave?"(Neelix skips and flutters away to enthusiastically tell other people how to survive)
"Oh well, it's just some old bones on the ground. I'll be fine..."
 
Probably Chakotay was effecting a panicky evacuation after yet another base of his was exposed. He was being chased, after all. Those folks on board might have been evacuees rather than crew.

That is, yes, they all fell under Chakotay's command eventually. But quite possibly his and Torres' fighting crew consisted only of Tuvok, Seska, Suder and other such close trusted compatriots, and the rest were just supernumeraries getting a ride to safety.

Timo Saloniemi
 
When I watched Caretaker at the beginning of the year, I was wondering this question myself. Chakotay's ship looked really small, and we only saw that small bridge with Chakotay, Tuvok, and B'elanna. If there was more than 40 Maquis members onboard, that is a really cramped ship.
 
The Maquis was a terrorist group, comfort was never part of their modus operandi. Really cramped ships would be part of the job.
 
Around 500, 90%+ of whom were never seen, working away ceaselessly and without respite in the slave pits, producing shuttles, torpedoes and more generally providing repairs keeping the ship spic and span every week. The ones we saw were just the privileged few Maquis "poster boy" officers.

Silly joking aside, I had always implicitly assumed it was supposed to be 1/3rd of the crew, but reading the (sourced) posts above that seems to be an overestimate. The 30-35 figure mentioned above sounds believable and would put it more in the 1/5th - 1/4th ballpark. That also would partially help explain why a Maquis mutiny never was actually an option considered seriously enough by the Maquis to attempt it (barring 'alien influence' and holodeck episodes).
 
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When I watched Caretaker at the beginning of the year, I was wondering this question myself. Chakotay's ship looked really small, and we only saw that small bridge with Chakotay, Tuvok, and B'elanna. If there was more than 40 Maquis members onboard, that is a really cramped ship.

The bridge was a redress of the runabout one, and the cockpit windows on the model were scaled accordingly. A runabout could haul about 50-60 people in an emergency (a surprisingly regular mode of employment for them in DS9!), since it's essentially a midsize bus with warp engines bolted on. So this significantly larger ship could be expected to do better. Just mentally insert a runabout at the ship centerline and imagine how there's easily room for two or three more inside the outer shell.

But a runabout could be operated by one person; the Maquis probably wouldn't need a big fighting crew to make the phasers go zzzrrrrrp and the torps go ping.

However, they would need big fighting crews to, well, fight. Their valiant raids against evil oppressors would hinge on manpower as much as they did on weapons stolen from or sponsored by Starfleet. So there's another reason for Chakotay to pack 'em tight, besides the usual "we are fleeing after our latest hideout was exposed" weekly maneuver...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Around 500, 90%+ of whom were never seen, working away ceaselessly and without respite in the slave pits, producing shuttles, torpedoes and more generally providing repairs keeping the ship spic and span every week. The ones we saw were just the privileged few Maquis "poster boy" officers.

Silly joking aside, I had always implicitly assumed it was supposed to be 1/3rd of the crew, but reading the (sourced) posts above that seems to be an overestimate. The 30-35 figure mentioned above sounds believable and would put it more in the 1/5th - 1/4th ballpark. That also would partially help explain why a Maquis mutiny never was actually an option considered seriously enough by the Maquis to attempt it (barring 'alien influence' and holodeck episodes).
Chakotay was a leader people rally with, he was a character who seemed to connect with subordinates. Is it possible he could've persuaded a large number of Starfleet personnel to join him on a mutiny? B'Elanna was a maquis terrorist, but from what I'd seen from Roxann Biggs performances as the character; she embodied an affection, and admiration for Chakotay; I don't doubt for one minute if a mutiny was called for, she would answer the call and be by the side of Chakotay.
 
I gather the Maquis would constantly worry about betrayal. Chakotay after the first season or two certainly would! If even one of their ranks told Starfleet, they'd all be screwed. In contrast, even if a dozen of Janeway's folks secretly joined the Maquis, Janeway would be little worse off. Even at 1/1 odds, and with, say, Tuvok suddenly pointing his phaser at Janeway, Starfleet forces might well prevail. And, even if defeated, would be in a good position to regain control - but in an even better one to deny control from the Maquis! After all, they were already agreeing with Janeway on upholding Starfleet regulations and ideals over quick and easy ways to get home: they might well fry the engines for good if the field manual's anti-boarding procedure called for that.

None of this would be a true showstopper for a carefully planned-out mutiny. But Chakotay or his immediate underlings would still be disinclined to try, out of caution - and anybody lower down would be hard pressed to manage the "carefully planned-out" bit without getting betrayed or otherwise exposed.

The most likely threat scenario probably would be a disgruntled Maquis suddenly simply killing Janeway. This wouldn't depend much on Maquis numbers vs. Starfleet numbers, either. It's a bit surprising this was never discussed in an episode, even when it started to become evident that not all the Maquis thought so highly about Chakotay's authority. I mean, Janeway would have absolutely insisted that a bodyguard would be bad for the morale and all - but the discussion would have been of dramatic interest.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I could see in the early seasons Chakotay managing to convince say, a section of the Starfleet Crew to join him in a mutiny-as he does in Worst Case Scenario.

Maybe a few dozen people at most.

B'lanna would side with Chakotay in a mutiny probably as late as Season 4, by the middle of the show she seemed to have enough affection for Janeway (if not everyone else) that she would have been hesitant to join a mutiny.

I gather the Maquis would constantly worry about betrayal. Chakotay after the first season or two certainly would! If even one of their ranks told Starfleet, they'd all be screwed. In contrast, even if a dozen of Janeway's folks secretly joined the Maquis, Janeway would be little worse off. Even at 1/1 odds, and with, say, Tuvok suddenly pointing his phaser at Janeway, Starfleet forces might well prevail. And, even if defeated, would be in a good position to regain control - but in an even better one to deny control from the Maquis! After all, they were already agreeing with Janeway on upholding Starfleet regulations and ideals over quick and easy ways to get home: they might well fry the engines for good if the field manual's anti-boarding procedure called for that.

None of this would be a true showstopper for a carefully planned-out mutiny. But Chakotay or his immediate underlings would still be disinclined to try, out of caution - and anybody lower down would be hard pressed to manage the "carefully planned-out" bit without getting betrayed or otherwise exposed.

The most likely threat scenario probably would be a disgruntled Maquis suddenly simply killing Janeway. This wouldn't depend much on Maquis numbers vs. Starfleet numbers, either. It's a bit surprising this was never discussed in an episode, even when it started to become evident that not all the Maquis thought so highly about Chakotay's authority. I mean, Janeway would have absolutely insisted that a bodyguard would be bad for the morale and all - but the discussion would have been of dramatic interest.

Timo Saloniemi
Janeway surrounding herself with guards would have definitely been bad for morale.

It would have told the Maquis crew that she still basically saw them as her enemies, which would have further alienated them, and would have told the Starfleet crew one not to trust or work with the Maquis, and also that their captain was at best aggressive and imperious, at worst paranoid and un Starfleet in her character.
 
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