How many crew members were on Voyager when it started? Obviously, there's the occasional death of a crew member, but I feel like there was an inconsistency throughout the series. Sometimes they'd say "150" other times it was a different number. Thoughts? Insights?
How many crew members are on Voyager?
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Pretty good list here.
The original crew complement of Voyager is 141, said by Lieutenant Stadi in "Caretaker." After that the numbers fluctuate like the torpedoes and shuttlecraft.
Ex Astris Scientia - Voyager's Crew Complement
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The original crew complement of Voyager is 141, said by Lieutenant Stadi in "Caretaker." After that the numbers fluctuate like the torpedoes and shuttlecraft.
Pretty good list here.
Ex Astris Scientia - Voyager's Crew Complement
Meticulous analysis of casualty figures and the development of the crew count on USS Voyagerwww.ex-astris-scientia.org
The original crew complement of Voyager is 141, said by Lieutenant Stadi in "Caretaker." After that the numbers fluctuate like the torpedoes and shuttlecraft
If they'd decided to play the TOS Redshirt game, they would have replenished endlessly, just like those items.
This is an interesting question because it's all about how to count.
I have made a list of all crewmembers on the Kes Website (link below). They also include characters mentioned in the Voyager books and names on screen lists. However, there are some questions about how to count them. As I've written on the site:
There are still some interesting things here. First of all, the list includes 218 names. If we omit the Maquis members (31 total including 11 characters mentioned in books) and characters who came on board after Voyager's arriveal to the Delta Quadrant, such as Kes, Neelix, Naomi Wildman and later additions such as Seven Of Nine, The Equinox crew and such, we'll discover that Voyager, when it arrived in the Delta Quadrant, had 184 Starfleet crew members, not 141 which is the official number. These numbers include Tom Paris and Tuvok but not The Doctor since he wasn't regarded as a Starfleet crewman when the ship arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
However, if we omit the characters mentioned in the Voyager books, (65 characters total) then we can bring down the Starfleet personnel to 119 which is more acceptable. If we omit the crewmembers whose names were visible on lists in alternate universe or dream sequence episodes like "Non Sequitur" and "Projections" (32 crewmembers) we are down to 87 names.
If we omit the crewmembers whose names were visible on lists in alternate universe or dream sequence episodes like "Non Sequitur" and "Projections" (32 crewmembers) but add the crewmembers mentioned in books, we will have total 186 crewmembers. If we omit the Maquis (31 total including 11 characters mentioned in books) plus Kes, Neelix and Naomi Wildman, we will be down to 152 Starfleet crewmembers when Voyager arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
However, there is also another way to explain the inconsistences.
Let us assume that Voyager actually had two missions.
The first one was to find Chakotay's Maquis ship.
But the other was to establish a bridgehead in the badlands which would be used for an invasion of the area in order to conquer the Maquis. Therefore a Special Force were also on board to establish such a bridgehead on one of the planets in the badlands. That Special Force had 43 members.
So what Voyager had from the start was 141 crew members (including Tuvok and Paris) plus 43 members of the Special Force led by Lt. Cavit then we have 184 crew members when Voyager arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
When Voyager became stuck in the Delta Quadrant and Cavit died, the "Badlands mission" was simply forgotten and no one talked about it anymore, except maybe Janeway, Chakotay and Tuvok in some internal conversations in Janeway's ready room. The members of the Special Force were just incorporated in the Voyager crew.
Full crew list is to be found on the Kes Website under the link Crew list in the left column of the site.
Note that I hadn't seen Akiraprise's link to the Ex Astris Scientia page when I wrote my comments above. I might have to do some corrections on the list on the Kes Website in the near future.
I have made a list of all crewmembers on the Kes Website (link below). They also include characters mentioned in the Voyager books and names on screen lists. However, there are some questions about how to count them. As I've written on the site:
There are still some interesting things here. First of all, the list includes 218 names. If we omit the Maquis members (31 total including 11 characters mentioned in books) and characters who came on board after Voyager's arriveal to the Delta Quadrant, such as Kes, Neelix, Naomi Wildman and later additions such as Seven Of Nine, The Equinox crew and such, we'll discover that Voyager, when it arrived in the Delta Quadrant, had 184 Starfleet crew members, not 141 which is the official number. These numbers include Tom Paris and Tuvok but not The Doctor since he wasn't regarded as a Starfleet crewman when the ship arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
However, if we omit the characters mentioned in the Voyager books, (65 characters total) then we can bring down the Starfleet personnel to 119 which is more acceptable. If we omit the crewmembers whose names were visible on lists in alternate universe or dream sequence episodes like "Non Sequitur" and "Projections" (32 crewmembers) we are down to 87 names.
If we omit the crewmembers whose names were visible on lists in alternate universe or dream sequence episodes like "Non Sequitur" and "Projections" (32 crewmembers) but add the crewmembers mentioned in books, we will have total 186 crewmembers. If we omit the Maquis (31 total including 11 characters mentioned in books) plus Kes, Neelix and Naomi Wildman, we will be down to 152 Starfleet crewmembers when Voyager arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
However, there is also another way to explain the inconsistences.
Let us assume that Voyager actually had two missions.
The first one was to find Chakotay's Maquis ship.
But the other was to establish a bridgehead in the badlands which would be used for an invasion of the area in order to conquer the Maquis. Therefore a Special Force were also on board to establish such a bridgehead on one of the planets in the badlands. That Special Force had 43 members.
So what Voyager had from the start was 141 crew members (including Tuvok and Paris) plus 43 members of the Special Force led by Lt. Cavit then we have 184 crew members when Voyager arrived in the Delta Quadrant.
When Voyager became stuck in the Delta Quadrant and Cavit died, the "Badlands mission" was simply forgotten and no one talked about it anymore, except maybe Janeway, Chakotay and Tuvok in some internal conversations in Janeway's ready room. The members of the Special Force were just incorporated in the Voyager crew.
Full crew list is to be found on the Kes Website under the link Crew list in the left column of the site.
Note that I hadn't seen Akiraprise's link to the Ex Astris Scientia page when I wrote my comments above. I might have to do some corrections on the list on the Kes Website in the near future.
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Thank you so much for providing this information.
Thanks, and feel free to visit The Kes Website.
Some interesting things to find there, especially the page Voyager mysteries and how to solve them where there are some suggestions how to solve certain problems with continuity and such.
The number would have fluctuated throughout the journey. To begin with, remember that a huge chunk of the original crew died in "Caretaker." Thrn they absorbed 30 or so Maquis into the crew, plus Neelix and Kes. After that, they gained and lost several crewmembers over the years.
Some things to keep in mind about Memory Alpha's list of Voyager personnel:
Some things to keep in mind about Memory Alpha's list of Voyager personnel:
- It lists crewmembers who are named but not shown onscreen, and people seen but not named. Presumably there's overlap between those.
- A number of names shown in writing might be members of the original crew who died on arrival to the Alpha Quadrant.
- Not every name on a screen is necessarily a crewmember. Some of those could be lists of...well anything. People who designed the ship, people involved in deciding the mission, list of emergency contacts for crewmembers, famous 3D-chess champions, etc.
- Memory Alpha assumes that every new face is a different individual, but recurring characters on "Star Trek" frequently change actors with no subtlety. The two Ensign Murphys, for instance, are probably meant to be the same person.
- Cosmetic surgery is very advanced in the 24th Century
- Memory Alpha also assumes that people only mentioned or shown in dreams, alternate timeliness, etc are real crewmembers.
- People get numbers wrong all the time. When you mention your graduating class, how often do you remember the exact number? Sure there are some situations where the officers would be discussing the exact number, but numbers mentioned in casual conversation should be taken with a grain of salt.
How about the number of Vulcans on Voyager? Would that warrant its own thread topic, or would it make sense to just bring it up here?
"Counterpoint" always drove me crazy with its implication that Tuvok and Vorik were the only two Vulcans onboard, when the rest of the series (up to the final episode) implies very heavily that there are more than just two or three, and we see at least one more Vulcan crewmember in Season 7.
"Counterpoint" always drove me crazy with its implication that Tuvok and Vorik were the only two Vulcans onboard, when the rest of the series (up to the final episode) implies very heavily that there are more than just two or three, and we see at least one more Vulcan crewmember in Season 7.
Or two writers liked the name "Murphy"
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