Whoops my bad. I usually just call it Die Hard in space, guest-starring Tuvok.
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List Only! Last Star Trek Episode You Watched
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Picard wasn't even born when they christened the Enterprise-B.
"The Quality Of Life": If these things are alive then it's not much of a life. It seems even more fun to be a Jem than one of these glorified water turbines. The micro replicators could come in handy and so they wouldn't need those big toolboxes that they keep carrying around but it would be foolhardy to expect consistency from these guys. It's a good thing that Riker lied to his superiors about the whole thing otherwise Data (as Picard said in another episode) would have been stripped to his wires to see what was wrong with him! So much for Starfleet officers always telling the truth though...
"Chain Of Command": A good "doubleheader" except for one detail. Sending the aged high-level Picard and Beverly on this mission is just stupid beyond belief not to mention cruel after what Picard had gone through with the Borg!!! I mean so Picard knows a lot about the weapon, big deal. Didn't he write any reports then? Can't he brief someone on what he knows? It's essentially a Rambo type of mission. The only one that makes sense is Worf. The other two are just out of place.
"Face of the Enemy": If the Tal Shiar is such a dreaded organization, that eliminates people who are just suspected of bad behavior (and their families) then how come the Romulan captain keeps contradicting and countermanding everything Deanna says. That doesn't make sense. She either got hit in the head recently and lost her mind or she would have been eliminated a long time ago.
"Tapestry": Good entertaining episode but the premise is just stupid. The Picard who wouldn't take any risk and be timid would be the one stabbed not the one who avoided it!! It seems that the authors of this piece never heard of PTSD and what it does to people! Soldiers who've seen too much killing become apathetic and in need of years of therapy. More often than not they never get to lead a normal life. Plus when you're stabbed through the heart you don't laugh!! You die, instantly!!
Birthright: Dreams are not expressions of our fantasy! They are a byproduct of the process of conversion of short term memories into long term memories; They are not meant to be remembered and that's why most of the time we don't remember them at all. If anything making Data dream that way makes him even less human not more. Worf is a major ass in that double episode. No contest (nolo contendere).
"Chain Of Command": A good "doubleheader" except for one detail. Sending the aged high-level Picard and Beverly on this mission is just stupid beyond belief not to mention cruel after what Picard had gone through with the Borg!!! I mean so Picard knows a lot about the weapon, big deal. Didn't he write any reports then? Can't he brief someone on what he knows? It's essentially a Rambo type of mission. The only one that makes sense is Worf. The other two are just out of place.
"Face of the Enemy": If the Tal Shiar is such a dreaded organization, that eliminates people who are just suspected of bad behavior (and their families) then how come the Romulan captain keeps contradicting and countermanding everything Deanna says. That doesn't make sense. She either got hit in the head recently and lost her mind or she would have been eliminated a long time ago.
"Tapestry": Good entertaining episode but the premise is just stupid. The Picard who wouldn't take any risk and be timid would be the one stabbed not the one who avoided it!! It seems that the authors of this piece never heard of PTSD and what it does to people! Soldiers who've seen too much killing become apathetic and in need of years of therapy. More often than not they never get to lead a normal life. Plus when you're stabbed through the heart you don't laugh!! You die, instantly!!
Birthright: Dreams are not expressions of our fantasy! They are a byproduct of the process of conversion of short term memories into long term memories; They are not meant to be remembered and that's why most of the time we don't remember them at all. If anything making Data dream that way makes him even less human not more. Worf is a major ass in that double episode. No contest (nolo contendere).
Chateau Picard. It's in the family, so Picard doesn't need to have been born yet.
Indeed. You meet a Picard in the Enterprise novels. I never knew that it was a Picard bottle. That’s cool.
TNG- The Last Outpost
Rewatched it because of the recent 'Ferengi' debate on this board and how they were originally envisioned.
I remembered this episode as "cheesy early TNG", but to my surprise, I found the majority of this episode to be actually pretty enjoyable, especially the early parts of it.
There are enough intriguing concepts and suspense to go around. The crew is about to meet those mysterious Ferengi, who they know practically nothing of, despite hearsay, and information on them is only released very gradually during the episode. There's a great buildup here: first we see their ship, then there's a short fight, then we have audio communications, then distorted visual communication, and only on the planet we actually learn they are diminutive. The situation with the planet is equally intriguing. First they think they are being held at gunpoint by the Ferengi, only to learn later the Ferengi think the same but in reverse. and it's only then the focus shifts to the planet. The concept of this long-dead but in its heyday stunningly powerful t' Kon empire is equally intriguing, though sadly we never learn any more about it (and neither is that fancy holodisplay we learn this from ever seen again).
It's only when the action shifts to the planet's surface (when the episode is more than half over) that it gets cheesy, with those Ferengi overacting like bad movie villains and whipping our crew. Also, I would have preferred the Empire's guardian to be a bit more critical about the Federation instead of going all chummy with Riker after he has given a single "good" response. Those things, and that silly Chinese finger puzzle give away that this is still very early TNG. But except for those scenes, this is not a badly executed episode.
A few random thoughts:
- Picard had never heard of the t' Kon empire, though as an amateur archaeologist he probably should have, especially if the empire was that large and powerful. I suppose this part of his backstory wasn't established this early during TNG's run.
- If the t' Kon empire was 'a huge space federation' with 'a population of trillions' and so powerful it could move stars just to create strategically located outposts (a power probably far beyond the Borg, and probably beyond the Iconians as well), how would a single star going supernova (even if it was their original home star) make that Empire collapse?
- Never noticed before that Shimerman (Quark) already played a Ferengi in this very first encounter
Rewatched it because of the recent 'Ferengi' debate on this board and how they were originally envisioned.
I remembered this episode as "cheesy early TNG", but to my surprise, I found the majority of this episode to be actually pretty enjoyable, especially the early parts of it.
There are enough intriguing concepts and suspense to go around. The crew is about to meet those mysterious Ferengi, who they know practically nothing of, despite hearsay, and information on them is only released very gradually during the episode. There's a great buildup here: first we see their ship, then there's a short fight, then we have audio communications, then distorted visual communication, and only on the planet we actually learn they are diminutive. The situation with the planet is equally intriguing. First they think they are being held at gunpoint by the Ferengi, only to learn later the Ferengi think the same but in reverse. and it's only then the focus shifts to the planet. The concept of this long-dead but in its heyday stunningly powerful t' Kon empire is equally intriguing, though sadly we never learn any more about it (and neither is that fancy holodisplay we learn this from ever seen again).
It's only when the action shifts to the planet's surface (when the episode is more than half over) that it gets cheesy, with those Ferengi overacting like bad movie villains and whipping our crew. Also, I would have preferred the Empire's guardian to be a bit more critical about the Federation instead of going all chummy with Riker after he has given a single "good" response. Those things, and that silly Chinese finger puzzle give away that this is still very early TNG. But except for those scenes, this is not a badly executed episode.
A few random thoughts:
- Picard had never heard of the t' Kon empire, though as an amateur archaeologist he probably should have, especially if the empire was that large and powerful. I suppose this part of his backstory wasn't established this early during TNG's run.
- If the t' Kon empire was 'a huge space federation' with 'a population of trillions' and so powerful it could move stars just to create strategically located outposts (a power probably far beyond the Borg, and probably beyond the Iconians as well), how would a single star going supernova (even if it was their original home star) make that Empire collapse?
- Never noticed before that Shimerman (Quark) already played a Ferengi in this very first encounter
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Jean Luc was the first Picard in Starfleet, they had no reason to choose that brand before that, plus it doesn't seem like the Picards were Champagne producers. Who would christen a ship with a bottle of red?
"Starship Mine": "Tuvok" was pretty stupid to tell Picard that his phaser wouldn't work, instead of saying nothing and try to overpower him!!! "Tuvok" was right, Picard didn't kill him, he just left him unconscious in the path of something that did. It's like saying "I won't kill you but the bullets of my gun will...".
"Lessons": Boring... How are we supposed to believe that he used to be a lady's man?
"The Chase": Goes against the theory of natural selection but whatever... The Klingon was right. You call that a message? I've seen more informative postal cards!!!
"Frame Of Mind": At last an episode where Riker is supposed to yell.
"Suspicions": Beverly was still guilty of breaking the law by performing an unauthorized autopsy but let's pretend we didn't notice it.
"Lessons": Boring... How are we supposed to believe that he used to be a lady's man?
"The Chase": Goes against the theory of natural selection but whatever... The Klingon was right. You call that a message? I've seen more informative postal cards!!!
"Frame Of Mind": At last an episode where Riker is supposed to yell.
"Suspicions": Beverly was still guilty of breaking the law by performing an unauthorized autopsy but let's pretend we didn't notice it.
It was fan wank. Put there to give the audience something to recognize if they followed TNG. Meaningless if one didn't watch it.
I had a random thought. I have them sometimes. And if you look at the rest of the initial post, I rejected the idea myself, but figured I'd put it out there anyway.
Rules of Engagement (DS9 on Netflix)
TNG - Booby Trap.
This is a very nuanced story, using action-equal-opposite-reaction in a very clever way. Relative history in terms of the Promelians and their craft was also novel. Geordi, having struck out in dating again is more a side issue as it's easier to talk with other human beings as opposed to a walking robot (hence Data still having sufficient human-like mannerisms, but to Geordi Data is the best of both worlds but I digress.) The knackered nature of Geordi's visor can be readily scene in close-ups but that's not important. The computer's creation of Leah from various sources leads to a couple giggle moments, but Geordi never created the facsimile with any hanky panky intent. That's on the computer. The Geordi/Guinan scene in his subplot (which is given the perfect amount of time, the real episode is with the Promellian cruiser and Menthar booby trap) took me a couple decades to realize, I blame the autism and the squirrel (or just call me "late bloomer".) Also, the port nacelle thruster is not shown (starboard was). That issue was also on the SD original. But having heard the replacement music cues for the (fairly awesome) escape scene, it's too easy to understand why they composited bits of "Where Silence Has Lease", which still blends in perfectly. The other music cues in this episode are as trendsetting as ever, which blend into the story nicely. But the escape scene was too brash and diluted all suspense as a result. This episode also has one of the final callbacks to TOS via an old Ertl model of NCC-1701 in the foreground, with bits missing (probably used as a kitbash somewhere else) and nacelles placed at perpendicular angles - suggesting the designers were looking at older ship designss and trying various configurations as brainstorming new engine designs on a whim (I know, I know, conjuring up in-universe canon for a callback with built-in woopsie is as silly as using the nonword "woopsie" (and obviously "nonword" too, but I digress again) but is also much fun). Lastly, Menthar is - interestingly - caught by my spell checker as "Menthol" or "Armament". And this is one episode where you don't want to light up either way. 9.5/10, highly recommended viewing.
Link to whacking-great close-up of the Ertl model: http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x06/booby_trap_hd_254.jpg
This is a very nuanced story, using action-equal-opposite-reaction in a very clever way. Relative history in terms of the Promelians and their craft was also novel. Geordi, having struck out in dating again is more a side issue as it's easier to talk with other human beings as opposed to a walking robot (hence Data still having sufficient human-like mannerisms, but to Geordi Data is the best of both worlds but I digress.) The knackered nature of Geordi's visor can be readily scene in close-ups but that's not important. The computer's creation of Leah from various sources leads to a couple giggle moments, but Geordi never created the facsimile with any hanky panky intent. That's on the computer. The Geordi/Guinan scene in his subplot (which is given the perfect amount of time, the real episode is with the Promellian cruiser and Menthar booby trap) took me a couple decades to realize, I blame the autism and the squirrel (or just call me "late bloomer".) Also, the port nacelle thruster is not shown (starboard was). That issue was also on the SD original. But having heard the replacement music cues for the (fairly awesome) escape scene, it's too easy to understand why they composited bits of "Where Silence Has Lease", which still blends in perfectly. The other music cues in this episode are as trendsetting as ever, which blend into the story nicely. But the escape scene was too brash and diluted all suspense as a result. This episode also has one of the final callbacks to TOS via an old Ertl model of NCC-1701 in the foreground, with bits missing (probably used as a kitbash somewhere else) and nacelles placed at perpendicular angles - suggesting the designers were looking at older ship designss and trying various configurations as brainstorming new engine designs on a whim (I know, I know, conjuring up in-universe canon for a callback with built-in woopsie is as silly as using the nonword "woopsie" (and obviously "nonword" too, but I digress again) but is also much fun). Lastly, Menthar is - interestingly - caught by my spell checker as "Menthol" or "Armament". And this is one episode where you don't want to light up either way. 9.5/10, highly recommended viewing.
Link to whacking-great close-up of the Ertl model: http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x06/booby_trap_hd_254.jpg
It's TNG's last reuse of 'The Measure of a Man", and TQOL's title may as well be "The Law of Diminishing Returns" since this one was so hollow and vapid... by the numbers, the music (the symphony of flatulent amphibians) couldn't possibly have been any more banal... and with Wesley gone to otherwise remind them of things, of course they're all going to ramp up the non-truths.
Agreed. It's dramatically strong but the setup is contrived in order to shoehorn Picard in.
Makes for great drama though, I suppose... the episode feels so forced. If nothing else, Carolyn Seymour returns to steal the show, even if it's the weakest role on TNG she's portrayed.
"Tapestry": Good entertaining episode but the premise is just stupid. The Picard who wouldn't take any risk and be timid would be the one stabbed not the one who avoided it!! It seems that the authors of this piece never heard of PTSD and what it does to people! Soldiers who've seen too much killing become apathetic and in need of years of therapy. More often than not they never get to lead a normal life. Plus when you're stabbed through the heart you don't laugh!! You die, instantly!!
^^WIN
I always hyperfocused on another set of dialogue in that story but I think you nailed it. (And, no, I'm not going to say "Q was there with his bucket of popcorn and giggling." )
Pt 1 > pt 2. Worf was so stodgy... the episode didn't really make up its mind as to whether or not the colonists were on equal terms or if the Romulans were the only real ones in charge. Worf trying to stomp around and say they couldn't live together is just fourth rate manure. Case in point: Worf working very well with the Federation. The ending was okay from what I remember, that the colony is left alone in peace and some of the younglings leave with Worf and there's absolutely zero discussion of how they will integrate into Earth or Qo'Nos or what not. Though the Romulans knowing of the place (sending over supply ships? )
50 quatloos that Picard didn't swallow that.
"Rightful Heir" aka (Send In The Clone): One of the funniest scenes of the series, Worf looking at Riker crosseyed and Riker saying: "Worf, what the hell are you doing?" 
"Second Chances" aka (Send In The Clone (2) ): Riker yelling... at Riker.
"Timescape": Even accelerated fifty times it would take hours for Picard's nails to grow that long!!! Looks like no one taught these writers... to count!!!
"Descent": Maybe sending the officers with the most seniority on ONE big away mission leaving only the juniors fresh out of the academy on the ship is not the smartest thing to do...
"Liaison": Picard almost had sex with a man masquerading as a woman... Is that TNG's roundabout way of finally acknowledging homosexuality?
"Interface": The woman playing Geordi's mother is seen in the previous episode holding hands with a child... She even has the same hairdo!
"Gambit" : Worf: "Are we supposed to just sit there?" Data: "Yes."
"Second Chances" aka (Send In The Clone (2) ): Riker yelling... at Riker.
"Timescape": Even accelerated fifty times it would take hours for Picard's nails to grow that long!!! Looks like no one taught these writers... to count!!!
"Descent": Maybe sending the officers with the most seniority on ONE big away mission leaving only the juniors fresh out of the academy on the ship is not the smartest thing to do...
"Liaison": Picard almost had sex with a man masquerading as a woman... Is that TNG's roundabout way of finally acknowledging homosexuality?
"Interface": The woman playing Geordi's mother is seen in the previous episode holding hands with a child... She even has the same hairdo!
"Gambit" : Worf: "Are we supposed to just sit there?" Data: "Yes."
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