That's to be expected from those who scream tolerance...with certain exceptions.
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That's to be expected from those who scream tolerance...with certain exceptions.
THIS is a great point. And it's a great counter to the concept that he's too powerful. Different topic though.
Luthor could NEVER beat Superman physically, but you can't punch intelligence, and that's what makes him so formidable.
Luthor used his intelligence to find ways to beat Superman. Sometimes physically. Batman does the same on those occasions he's fought Superman.
Nope not at all.
Man, you're not kidding. Those letters could have been written yesterday (complete with laughable "I'm not a racist" disclaimers, and complaints about "knuckl[ing] under to women's lib. They're even taking over the comic books now!").
And again in season 2 when she and Monel went to the planet under the red sun.
Liked this Stan Lee obit.
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1211007156893319168
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
In the 1970s "people" were complaining about all the stories devoted to "Negroes" and in the "20-teens" its all the stories devoted to women, or LGBTQ characters.
https://twitter.com/SilveradoDaily/status/1211033762148036609
Loved the poster that demanded to know what the point / the endgame of all this "awareness" was... and the simple incredulous response, "To, to get it to stop." (The intolerance.)
I take it you didn't like Dawn of Justice?
Or Superman Returns.
See my above comment, its not about teaming, its about diversity.
You can't?
I think Archimedes would disagree with you on that point.
Luckily, Supergirl's big sister is a female Archimedes and comes equipped with yellow sun grenades.
Yeah, but it never really works. Let's not forget that Superman is also highly intelligent. Superman always finds a way to stop Lex physically.
You are correct. It's a similar complaint, though less politically correct/woke. That was just as dumb as what they do on Supergirl, with a result that was even more ridiculous. As is the case with Supergirl, Superman had to be dumbed down to get the result. We get it. One guy, Frank Miller, wrote a preposterous result 30 years ago, and somehow Batman became more powerful than everyone "if he prepares."
In B v S, you had Superman fall for the same kryptonite trick twice.
Really? Never occurred to Clark that Batman might have more kryptonite?
As for Superman Returns, you're also right. It's been awhile since I saw that one. But it was the first movie that showed that Hollywood doesn't get the Man of Steel anymore. I felt that movie had the heart of a writer that cared about the character, but one that didn't quite get it and came up with a terrible story. It was a different kind of bad movie.
That's why I feel that Routh couldn't be Reeve. He wasn't strong enough. Plus, that version acted very out of character, especially if you factor in the experiences of Superman II. If Superman II is in Routh's canon, he would never leave Earth like that.
So Routh's movie is a little better if you consider it an alternate Earth, but that movie in my opinion was very poorly cast, and the story didn't work. I guess that's another topic.
I really liked Smallville for the most part (though there was about a 2-3 season run after Jonathan died that wasn't so hot), I liked Lois and Clark, and I loved Superman TAS. His character wasn't very good in the first season of Justice League, but the writers got the message and made it better in the second season.
Superman TAS has my favorite storyline, and ironically, Superman won, but really lost at the same time in that one--at least from his perspective.
I never saw this blooper reel compilation before and especially liked the blooper from 2 crossovers ago... when Melissa fell asleep during a scene.
Literally.
Literally.
If WB never said the movies have any connection to the CW-TV series, it should be easy to disregard any attempt to force-fit the latter into film characterization/continuity.
Regarding the character aberration in the form of Routh's movie and the Donner films, its always best to lean in favor of the original, which had its own contained production & universe (obviously) no matter how much some want to glue it to the Routh version.
To this end, if WB never said the movies have any connection to the CW-TV series, it should be easy to disregard any attempt to force-fit the latter into film characterization/continuity. For another example, not for a moment is anyone thinking Dozier's Batman series has any legitimate, non-stunt casting connection to the CW live action shows, and on and on.
Of course it does. Batman '66 is now an official part of the Arrowverse's larger multiverse ... as is Black Lightning, as much as "some" might wish it were otherwise.
Of course it does. Batman '66 is now an official part of the Arrowverse's larger multiverse ... as is Black Lightning, as much as "some" might wish it were otherwise.
Bleh.
That's very true. I can sort of accept the Routh version as a sequel to Superman Returns. I can't see it as a sequel to the Reeve movies. I do not see Superman Returns as a sequel to Superman and Superman II. It just wasn't written right.
That's true. I tend to feel that in most cases, if there is a continuity error, go with the original as the tie breaker, unless it's something where an early episode hadn't found its rules and norms yet.
Example--in Flashback on Voyager, they killed a character that didn't die, and claimed that the explosion of Praxis and the events of ST6 took place in a period of a few days. However, of course, ST6 contradicts that, and the episode seemed as if the writers didn't watch anything other than the first scene of the movie. In a case like that, I disregard Flashback to the extent the writers got it wrong. General Rule.
However, examples of the exception would be Kirk's middle initial. In Where No Man, his middle initial was R. After that, T. Another example would be the Trills. They appeared one way on TNG, and different in DS9.
With Routh and Reeve, no matter what the writers say, it's not really possible to reconcile the two, and it's very easy to treat them as two different Earths.
I would agree with the idea that the viewer is really able to make his/her own decision as whether Returns is part of the Reeve movies. There is nothing explicitly on screen that says the two have to be linked. There is enough backstory in Returns to allow viewers to make connections but there is nothing in the movie that absolutely requires all the movies to be linked.
A point that is increased significantly with the existence of a multiverse.
Trailer for next episode, 5x10 "The bottle episode". Very meta title. Spoilers if you have not seen the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover yet.
The episode feels very classic Superman to me, like something out of the Lois & Clark TV show, what with the whole world thinking Lex Luthor is a "good guy" but Supergirl knowing that he is up to something nefarious.
Ouch -- at 0:25 in that promo, the caption refers to Lex as "A SUPER VILLIAN." Spell check, please!
I wonder why it's called "The Bottle Episode," since it clearly isn't literally that -- we see a number of different sets and outdoor locations in the promo. My first thought on seeing the title was "Oh, are they introducing the Bottle City of Kandor?" But nothing in the promo seems to suggest that.
I wonder why it's called "The Bottle Episode," since it clearly isn't literally that -- we see a number of different sets and outdoor locations in the promo. My first thought on seeing the title was "Oh, are they introducing the Bottle City of Kandor?" But nothing in the promo seems to suggest that.
Caught that yesterday. It looks great -- which would make it the first great episode of this sadly lackluster season. I could have done without the mention of Leviathan; they should have taken the opportunity of the Crisis aftermath to abandon that misconceived storyline altogether. But Cryer is just so, so good as Lex, and the writers have such a great take on the character, that it will be hard to go wrong with this one.
My guess is that the episode won't really advance the season long arc a whole lot but rather just kinda explore the ramifications from Crisis, specifically Lex being in charge now of the DEO and being beloved as a "good guy". So it's a bottle episode in the sense that it is a pause from the season long arc.
That's not what the term means, though. A bottle episode can be very significant to a season's arc, precisely because it lets you concentrate the characters in one place and focus on their interactions. Examples include Leverage's similarly titled "The Bottle Job," Eureka's "H.O.U.S.E. Rules," and Buffy the Vampire Slayer's "The Body."
Also, exploring the ramifications of Lex's new role is hardly a pause in the arc -- it's the establishment of what the arc will be going forward.
Besides, they wouldn't use it as an episode title if it were just a functional description from a production standpoint. It has to have some story significance, presumably something that makes it a pun on the industry term "bottle episode." (Leverage: "The Bottle Job" was a multilayered pun -- it was a bottle episode, the standing set where it took place was a bar, it involved pulling off a more compact, "in a bottle" variant on a standard con job, and it featured the alcoholic lead character falling off the wagon, i.e. back into the bottle.)
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