Spoilers Clues on Picard show from Picard Countdown comic (possible spoilers)

[Dukhat]

Well, we know from ST (2009) that Tiberius isn’t to everyone’s taste, so maybe there was a period in his life when Kirk went by a different middle name.

I don’t recall any scene in ST’09 about that. Could you refresh my memory?

And Kelvinverse Kirk is an entirely different person from Prime Kirk, living in entirely different circumstances. So I’m not sure how his experiences are relevant.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

I don’t recall any scene in ST’09 about that. Could you refresh my memory?

And Kelvinverse Kirk is an entirely different person from Prime Kirk, living in entirely different circumstances. So I’m not sure how his experiences are relevant.

When George Kirk cringes at Winona’s idea of naming their son after George’s father, Tiberius. Yes, their experiences were different: there is no reason to believe the alternate Kirk ever found use for R.

 

[Dukhat]

When George Kirk cringes at Winona’s idea of naming their son after George’s father, Tiberius. Yes, their experiences were different: there is no reason to believe the alternate Kirk ever found use for R.

Ah yes, thanks. I can’t believe I forgot that scene.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Or we can treat it exactly like what it is, without any convoluted explanations needed: a changed premise that can be ignored. Just like how in M*A*S*H, Klinger had three different blood types, Frank had two different middle names, Col. Blake’s wife had two different names, Hawkeye had a sister and then was an only child, etc., etc.

I remember when Spock was an only child.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I remember when Spock was an only child.

Technically, it was never established that he was an only child. He never mentioned his family.

 

[The Old Mixer]

But, I suppose it helps to have a shred of imagination to begin with and be willing to actually use it.

It would seem that for some it's a device that aims to try and invalidate other folks imaginations and creativity.

As if you seem to have some sort of perverse invective about it that you enjoy.

I'm more than willing to let it go, but you seem to relish in specifically contradicting my posts.
The future is up to you at this point.

Perhaps in the future a mutual agreement of not replying to each others posts either directly or indirectly would be best.

Be that as it may, you obviously have way to big a chip on your shoulder to make a compromise with.

@Dukhat is right. Some of these comments are borderline flaming, and if you have a personal issue with him, best to take it to PM rather than derail the thread. I haven't had to give out any Warnings in the Picard forum yet...let's keep it that way.

 

[picardjean-luc]

I understand part 2 is now downloadable. Based on its plotline, could "the unthinkable event" spoken by the Admiral to Picard be a Romulan offensive against the Federation rescue fleet --- and beyond (I think the 'Picard' trailer showed a Romulan fleet invading Mars)??

If this is correct, there will be heavy Federation casualties from the Romulan offensive, not to mention billions who die in the Nova explotion. The Admiralty then blames Picard for the invasion based on his conduct in the Romulan planet highlighted in the comics, leading to his Starfleet resignation.

Sounds intriguing. For those who have downloaded part #2 - what do you all think?

 

[Paul Weaver]

I think comics are massively overpriced, I'd much prefer a good book.

Twist with the identity of the vintners. I wonder what the waterfalls have to do with, and who the benefactors were. Good to see Starfleet computer security is still as weak as it was the half dozen times the Enterprise was taken over.

 

[picardjean-luc]

Twist with the identity of the vintners. I wonder what the waterfalls have to do with, and who the benefactors were. Good to see Starfleet computer security is still as weak as it was the half dozen times the Enterprise was taken over.

One of the greatest galaxy powers with the largest fleet in Alpha Quadrant and hundreds of thousands personnels across the galaxy still have a lousy IT security system. How ironic .

 

[F. King Daniel]

One of the greatest galaxy powers with the largest fleet in Alpha Quadrant and hundreds of thousands personnels still have lousy IT security system. How ironic .

Gotta remember, to these people turning a system off and then on again is cutting-edge stuff ("Contagion")

Their reliance on technology has made them weak

 

[locborg]

Gotta remember, to these people turning a system off and then on again is cutting-edge stuff ("Contagion")

Their reliance on technology has made them weak

Well, thank god the Romulans didn’t know any good whale songs. Federation would be crushed by now...

 

[NCC-73515]

It's probably a S31 code they tortured out of Koval or something like that XD

 

[NCC-73515]

It's probably a S31 code they tortured out of Koval or something like that XD

 

[Longinus]

I am a bit puzzled why the governor has fair hair? I don't remember any vulcanoid besides half-human Sela ever having hair colour other than black or dark brown (and greying varieties of those of course.)

 

[Ralph O Ward III]

I understand part 2 is now downloadable. Based on its plotline, could "the unthinkable event" spoken by the Admiral to Picard be a Romulan offensive against the Federation rescue fleet --- and beyond (I think the 'Picard' trailer showed a Romulan fleet invading Mars)??

If this is correct, there will be heavy Federation casualties from the Romulan offensive, not to mention billions who die in the Nova explotion. The Admiralty then blames Picard for the invasion based on his conduct in the Romulan planet highlighted in the comics, leading to his Starfleet resignation.

Sounds intriguing. For those who have downloaded part #2 - what do you all think?

I think the invasion will cause the feds to turn their backs on the romulans when the supernova hits. The surviving Romulans would be seen as pariahs the same way the humans of Titan AE were.

 

[Ralph O Ward III]

I'm not sure where people are thinking they retconned the date of the Hobus supernova. The comic takes place in 2385. and they state the supernova is presumed to be around a year away. However, that's just a guess. Maybe it took an additional year

The supernova is retconned as just being a problem for a portion of Romulan space though, not the entire galaxy. Which makes sense, considering supernova travel at the speed of light, and generally speaking it's thought the issues with radiation cease about 200 light years out.

I think at this time, the danger of the supernova is underestimated.

 

[picardjean-luc]

I think at this time, the danger of the supernova is underestimated.

Agreed. Sounds like the writers are setting it up like the Last Days of Pompeii. One day everything was fine, people were plotting and scheming along, the next day s*** hit the city/planet and kills most of its inhabitants. The Romulans in the colony were certainly behaving like it was just a normal day for them. The Federation also thought the supernova was still at least one year away so it built more rescue ships thinking they won't be using them till much later.

 

[Danja]

Agreed. Sounds like the writers are setting it up like the Last Days of Pompeii.

Or Krypton ...

 

[rhllot]

Just read it. I like Musiker. Spoilers for the rest.

No surprise that the Romulan settling of worlds would include colonizing planets with an indigenous population. One issue that I might disagree with Picard on is that if the natives are pre-warp, then the Prime Directive would apply. Technically, Governor Shiana is in the right. The Romulans should be evacuated but not the indigenous people.

They are like the Bajorans are conquered by a warp civilization.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't treat the comics as canon but since the staff writers have a hand, I treat it as "writer's intent", which is what I go with until something on screen contradicts it. And even afterwards, I treat it as: "Okay, this is what they had in mind originally."

Ohh I like this idea.