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Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

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Even though I don't agree many have made the argument that Finn is a buffoon, in the tradition of very stereotypical black characters.Though, I don't see that being connected to Rey in any way, but I know that's the argument that will be made here shortly.
I don't get that either. IMO, a stereotypical black character is someone like J.J Walker. Finn was a fully realized character without any of the stereotypical traits that Hollywood has a tendency to do.
 
I'm not going to convince anyone here, but I'm convinced that over feminazation of the new trilogy was her vision.. every chance she had to put females in and have them be "strong" while making men look like buffoons she took it with free reign.

Yet, somehow, every writer and director of the sequel trilogy was male...
 
Putting thousands of ships on the screen does not constitute a good space battle. This was more like the chaos of ROTS than the brilliance of RO or ROTJ. It was good, but was again just completely OTT.

I actually liked this film better than ROTJ, ship wise.

That's a logical interpretation, but according to the Visual Dictionary, the Sith Destroyers were, in fact, a different design that was almost twice the size of an ISD-1 despite looking perfectly identical, down to the relative size and placement of the windows (I guess the officers on the bridge probably got a little step-stool so they could see out the viewport).

Still, Rose's line about researching old Destroyers, the color of the Sith TIE Fighters, and the fact that the ships looked exactly like Early Empire/Extremely Late Republic-era ships suggests they're an older generation of technology. Potentially predating the Death Stars, definitely predating Starkiller Base. How much further will it go? In a thousand years, will every fighter and smuggling freighter have a planet-cracking laser on it? Will there be a hand-held version?

a thimble full of zero point energy could do that.


Quick thoughts: Riding a horse on a ship and shooting an ARROW to destroy a ship?

Just. turn. the. ship. over.

No, I do think that that was the actual body that was recovered, or atleast part of it. There was only the head and badly burned hands visible. I don't think that the body even had any legs. You can see the robe flapping around when they lift him up with the crane. Until there is evidence to the contrary I will believe that that was the actual body of the Emperor.

The Death Star pieces crashlanded relatively intact. Throne room still had a working door. I don't see why the acolytes might not have scraped some parts of the Emperor from the surviving reactor shaft walls and stitched them together.

So, the Death Star II survived a major explosion, somehow, then moved in position to another moon, where it either entered the atmosphere and crashed on the moon, or reappeared on the moon.

Some parts of DS might have had their own sub systems--some gravity fields intact allowing things to float down
The wreckage seemed to have an influence on the tides.

I loved the Z'ha'dum-like Sith planet

That Lucas and Abrams had wanted to use the Son (played by Dr. Who's Matt Smith), from the Clone Wars, as the big bad, but that Disney felt that character was too obscure and he wanted Palpatine. I've also seen Abrams claim it was Palpatine all along, and while I am doubtful that was set in stone, I can see Abrams wanting it to have Palpatine involved, if not physically like in TROS, but as Rey's grandfather. I was watching a persuasive 2017 You Tube video that made some good points on that theory.

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I don't think we have seen the end of the emperor. I couldn't help but think "now the Star Wars galaxy is ready for the Vong..."

Speaking of the Force... I found it quite interesting that this trilogy depicted more spectacular Force powers at last. Previously we only saw such stuff in the tie-in materials, but this is the first time the movies actually give some idea of how "the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

I actually had an evil smile on my face when he lit up the resistance forces.

Filoni speaks...
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Priceless

I would rank this film equal to the original Star Wars movies.

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You find a woman, give her a star wars movie, and then remind her that she is representing her gender, in the face of the entire world and all of history.

The only sane reply to that ridiculous supposition is "I'm still getiing paid, right?"
 
I wouldn't have been opposed to it. I really liked seeing Harrison Ford again but Anakin might have made more sense there.
Han Solo made perfect sense. Kylo Ren "turned' ultimately when he killed his father, and as he was having doubts/a change of heart, he still felt that he'd done unforgivable acts; the major one for him being patricide - so who better than Han Solo to show up (memory or not) to say he is still salvageable and can be forgiven if he wants it.
 
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Han Solo made perfect sense. Kylo Ren "turned' ultimately he killed his father, and as he was having doubts/a change of heart, he still felt that he'd done unforgivable acts; the major one for him being patricide - so who better than Han Solo to show up (memory or not) to say he is still salvageable and can be forgiven if he wants it.

I wonder if Leia was Force-projecting that into his head?
 
Han Solo made perfect sense. Kylo Ren "turned' ultimately he killed his father, and as he was having doubts/a change of heart, he still felt that he'd done unforgivable acts; the major one for him being patricide - so who better than Han Solo to show up (memory or not) to say he is still salvageable and can be forgiven if he wants it.

More than that, Ben's whole thing is rejecting his heroes and family figures. He literally kills Han because he loves him and doesn't know how to stop despite all the ways in which his dad failed him (which he sees as a weakness). I'm convinced that part of the reason he's so into his grandfather is because Vader's story is already complete. His grandfather can't disappoint him by failing to live up to the hype. (All of which is probably just an externalization of Ben's own terrible fear of failure. The crushing weight of the expectations he's put on himself as an heir to Skywalker and the son of Rebel heroes.) In order to bring Ben back to the light, Ben needs to not only be forgiven for what he's done, but to heal the rift between himself and the people that he's been pushing away. Vader doesn't do that. Han does.
 
They're all getting paid with room and board.

Slavery?

The boxes of cash they gave Han Solo for rescuing Princess Leia, so they could have paid everyone for a little while, if Han hadn't been so greedy... Although maybe that's why she married him? To get her 10 hope chests of cheddar back?

During the American Civil War, the continental army was trying to pay for things like food and lodging with scripts that wouldn't be legal tender until after Britain lost the war.

Its possible that the Rebellion started using New Republic currency before the Old Republic turned into the empire.
 
How does Luke Skywalker, who in the course of the first movie, loses the people who raised him, his mentor and his best friend actually manage to function
Imagine if they took a more realistic approach to Back to the Future. A young man travels back in time and endangers his whole existence. The moviebshould have had long, artistic scenes of Marty in Doc's mantion in a fetal position wondering if he will survive. Best Picture for sure.

See, Star Wars was aa pulp sci fi adventure about heroes and villains, excitement and courage. It knew what film it was teting to be. Apparently.. you didnt get the memo.

It's onky in these said times where people are obsessed with pathos and their endless contunity in long stories and trying to see if it all makes sense that you'd even bring that up, fully missing the point of the film.
 
Marty McFly was too dumb to under stand how much trouble he was in.
My point is that the filmmakers were not makong a treatise on existence and existialism even though it could have won them points with the Acandemy. They were making a relatable romantic and witty comedy with a dash of sci fi that would appeal to people who want to have a good time
 
In the comics, months after he got back, Marty started to notice the little differences in the new timeline, so he was spiralling, going through family photo albums to lock down more decrepensies.

Dumb.
 
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