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Spidey OUT of MCU

They do. Sony, contractually, has final say over what happens to Spider-Man in MCU films.
In theory, sure. But in practice I'm not so certain their creative input actually counts for much. I mean what are they going to do? Not let Disney make money for them?

Honestly though, I'm more leaning towards the notion that Sony being likely to be bought out in a few years is the real reason for the limited scope of the agreement.
 
Will Disney actually ''allow'' Sony to walk away? The way things have been going the last few years, I'd expect them to own Universal, Warner Brothers and DC comics if not Sony before the next BATMAN reboot.
Everyone has got parent companies.

WB is owned by AT&T.

Universal is owned by Comcast.

Paramount is owned by Viacom.

Disney owns Marvel studios, Fox (although Comcast made a competitive bid for it, before a judge ruled in favor of Disney), Lucasfilm.

The Sony film division is own by Sony Corporate. The same people who make TVs, Playstation, cameras, etc. Sony has talked about shuttering their film division after GB 2016. As their only bread winners were Spider-Man and James Bond. James Bond under performed the year previously and is now back with MGM. Spider-Man they share the profits with Disney. While getting none of the toy sales, TV show sales, merchandise, marketing or theme park revenue based of Spider-Man.
 
Not really. They'll protect the character's value to their projects, to the point of walking away from Disney.
Yet... they're staying with Disney because they know their licensed property has greater value that way. So you point is moot.
 
Yet... they're staying with Disney because they know their licensed property has greater value that way. So you point is moot.

Disney are likely the ones who decided to come back to the negotiating table because Sony was fully prepared to - and confident that they could - end the partnership and go back to the pre-2015 'status quo' while still retaining as much of the full Homecoming/Far From Home cast and crew as possible.
 
https://www.newsarama.com/47117-son...ed-after-negotiations-went-public-report.html
Sony Pictures Entertainment doubled back and agreed, without alteration, to Walt Disney Studios' previous proposal to co-produce a third Spider-Man film following the originally-failed negotiations going public, according to Deadline.

Under this new deal, Disney will reportedly finance 25% of the third Spider-Man film and receive a 25% equity stake in the film - that's 5x their reported 5% for Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home. When the Sony/Disney falling out over future Spider-Man films first became public, several different percentages were reported without confirmation as to which was accurate.
 
Yeah, that's a misleading headline. What Deadline reported:

At one point, Disney’s side heated to a 50/50 co-finance ask, and that was a hard nut for Sony to swallow.

It's the 50/50 split that Sony walked away from. Disney had to back off that in order to get a deal.

Despite the hard-balling, we understand Disney came back to the table after D23 when they read the fanboy crowd on how upset they were over a possible rift in the Spider-Man universe.

The Mouse blinked.
 
Will Disney actually ''allow'' Sony to walk away? The way things have been going the last few years, I'd expect them to own Universal, Warner Brothers and DC comics if not Sony before the next BATMAN reboot.
There's no way the government is going allow Disney to buy any more competitors. There was already a lot of question if the Fox purchase was going to be allowed, so at this point I'm pretty sure any other purchase wouldn't be, unless they sold off one of the studios they already own.
 
Yeah, that's a misleading headline. What Deadline reported:



It's the 50/50 split that Sony walked away from. Disney had to back off that in order to get a deal.



The Mouse blinked.
You always go into a negotiation asking for more than you're willing to accept. That's basic stuff.

Every car salesman knows this.

And so do you. :techman:
 
The timeline given in reports was contradictory to begin with. The same source that broke the 50% claim turned around a few days later and said Disney was originally asking for 30% and upped their demands to 50 after Sony refused, which makes no sense. And other sources (then and now) claimed Disney's original proposal was 25% and the whole 50% story was total bs, just like the "Feige doesn't have time" story.

We don't actually know what happened.
 
The timeline given in reports was contradictory to begin with [...] We don't actually know what happened.


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"Right! This calls for immediate discussion!"
... Or, should he have said, further discussion. :p

I'm just glad that Spidey is back.
Seriously. Neither side got totally pwned, and a mutually beneficial relationship continues. It's okay to leave it there.
 
It makes sense to move Spidey in a direction that makes him comfortable amongst the other Sony properties, but that wouldn't rule out further MCU appearances.
 
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