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Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead

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No, the whole half the country losing their damn minds thing.

I guess it's a good thing that never happened again.
 
No, the whole half the country losing their damn minds thing.

I guess it's a good thing that never happened again.
It...hasn't? Half the country are understandably outraged that the same racist who was calling the president of the United States a secret Muslim Kenyan and who admitted to sexual assault on tape (with a member of the media no less) got elected, and with less than half of the popular vote.
 
Once you do things for the purpose of being diverse, especially above good storytelling, it's a rabbit hole. I mean Marvel seems to forget that we've had a black president, many awesome black super athletes and actors, and are just dealing with racism as if from their own little bubble now.
Look, I am far from liberal in my views but even I recognize that race relations still need work. The fact that we still find these stories worthy of comment indicates that there is still a long way to go. I think America has made bigger strides that it will ever be given credit for, but that doesn't mean it isn't still worth stories taking the time to explore.

So, instead of pretending it doesn't exist why not just allow society to explore it through stories? Sounds like good storytelling to me.
 
Yep. That doesn't bother me one jot.

Even Harvey Keitel was dubbed when he went sci-fi with Farrah Fawcett.

Does Gamora count toward black diversity if she is a green character?

Nay.

Nope. It was a garbage can set on self-destruct from frame one, and its no wonder it took an instant nose-dive when released. When filmmakers assume they're doing "That--er thing that inspired Star Wars! We already have the rights to it! Let's do THAT ! That'll show 'em! We will out-Star Wars Star Wars!" and abuse a concept they clearly did not understand, what happened was no surprise. Then again, DeLaurentis also pulled the same crap in 1977 with Orca, his nonsensical answer to Jaws starring Richard Harris versus a vengeful whale, so anyone working with him should have seen that coming...




Just the opposite; one, the man you refer to is Lorenzo Semple, Jr. who was responsible for the more level-headed, early development of the Batman series during its undeniably best season (the first), where comic action, even occasional noir influences were seen. Two, it was only after he backed away from the series (the remaining two seasons) that producer Dozier and Stanley "Never-met-a-schtick-he-didn't-like" Ralph Ross upended the original 80/20 mix (80-comic adventure, 20-a soft tongue in cheek about some elements) to become the stereotype that has mischaracterized the original intent of the series ever since.

Your first quoted paragraph? Correctamundo Not. There's a huge difference between FLASH and (uggh) ORCA.

As for your second quoted paragraph.........most BatFanatics notice a slight downward trend before and after Batgirl. To some it's not so slight. But the first Riddler adventure actually plays it serious with Jill St. John's death for 30 seconds. I'm not sure any BATMAN episode could be level-headed as you say. ''Poor deluded girl. What a way to go-go.'' Even THAT serious moment was joked about.
 
Remind you of anything?

It reminds me of a short script I wrote in 2004 in which there was a fictional unhinged President. Naturally I considered Shatner in the role. Little did I know how similar 2016 would turn out to be. I also thought of Rita Moreno for the first lady. Her character was having an affair with the VP (Will Patton), who Shatner ordered to be disposed of. In the conclusion, Rita got overly paranoid (even though Shatner wasn't directly threatening her) and she blew Shatner away inside the White House. On the other hand, having another character inform her her grown-up son was Crispin Glover possibly contributed to her mental state.:borg:
 
Even Harvey Keitel was dubbed when he went sci-fi with Farrah Fawcett.



Nay.



Your first quoted paragraph? Correctamundo Not. There's a huge difference between FLASH and (uggh) ORCA.

As for your second quoted paragraph.........most BatFanatics notice a slight downward trend before and after Batgirl. To some it's not so slight. But the first Riddler adventure actually plays it serious with Jill St. John's death for 30 seconds. I'm not sure any BATMAN episode could be level-headed as you say. ''Poor deluded girl. What a way to go-go.'' Even THAT serious moment was joked about.

Harvey Keitel and Farah Fawcett were in a *really shit* SF film though. Not only that, but it helped inflict Amis on the world.
 
Once you do things for the purpose of being diverse, especially above good storytelling, it's a rabbit hole. I mean Marvel seems to forget that we've had a black president, many awesome black super athletes and actors, and are just dealing with racism as if from their own little bubble now.
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How does this prove that "diversity for the sake of diversity" precludes a good story, or proves that cast selections were made to the detriment of story?

How is this not, yet another of your screeds against diversity?
 
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