Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead
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Forensic examination of his posts and threads reveals something disturbing. A movie that has lots of white male roles is normal because white males are human beings, so as a white male FSM can immerse in those films. A movie that has white male roles in the minority or not at all has a secret agenda since non white males are only secondary human beings or not considered human beings at all, they are just things that need to be slotted into movies ONLY when its relevant to the creative process.
Whyb should I? For you? I stand by my argument that the standards of entertainment should be about immersion and verisimilitude first.. throwing politics and diversity should compliment the story and not be the story or the sole reason for the story. Oh and remember when I brought up the head of the ms. marvel show and people asked where i got my info.. and I responded right away? Well it turns out she deleted 5000 tweets right after they announced she'd be writing the show
So, what’s the story reasons for the following heroes to be white straight male:
Captain Kirk, Luke Skywalker, Tony Stark, Clark Kent, John McClane, Ethan Hunt, Neo, Harry Potter, Rick Deckard, Peter Venkman, Doc Brown, James Bond?
Why is it more immersive that those are white?
#1, it is not the SOLE reason for the story, just a factor that goes with the story, and #2, the world you want is not the world we live in, it has never BEEN the world we live in, it's not going to change, it is something you are just going to have to live with.
I thought we were talking about fiction. People don't fly around with logos on their chest in real life
I am very confused, how does me telling him story and immersion is not the only concern in casting (because as I have been arguing diversity is very important) and he is going to have to live with people who don't look like him in movies make me unfit to adopt a black or asian child?
Sorry replied to the wrong person, apologies
No worries, got very confused that maybe I had REALLY bungled my point.
Nah my fault, typing and cooking at the same time does not mix lol
The actual world is full of diversity and different minorities just living everywhere, yet seeing this is fiction breaks your reality? Do you just want to live in a fantasy world where white men are the default and solve all problems? Because that’s what it seems like you want. You don’t want to be reminded at certain groups exist and interact with you daily, even here. I assure you that we aren’t all white men.
After what happened to James Gunn? She sounds like a pretty smart person.*
Smarter still, I suppose, would be folks staying off Twitter and saving themselves career headaches down the road. No one wants to do that, though.
*That is, if it's even true as stated. The bigot boys** who put together these "gotcha" videos exaggerate the fuck out of this kind of thing, and aren't above just lying like hell.
**Yeah, I looked through the "John Talks" videos on that channel. He's a paranoid misogynist who one can only hope doesn't own guns.
Sadly, because creators are also encouraged to have that sort of reach, they can't really NOT be on social media. But, that's no reason to behave stupidly.
Not that I'm saying Ms. Marvel's show runner has, but, Gunn sorta did and apologized for it over and over...
Well, there are smart folks who have professionals manage their social media.
Yep. Once they can afford it.
And ones who can but don't... *looks over at Constance Wu's twitter feed*
It doesn't cost that much to have an assistant or part-timer do this stuff. Basically, these people need editors, publicists, whatever. Just pretending that there's nothing they can do about posting narrow-minded, creepy or over-the-top ranty stuff except lock up their phones before firing up the pipe is nonsense.
Fictional stories being told to real people. And, in reality, there is diversity. And diversity is not a bad thing. It is something that is a part of the world we live in. So, why not write more fictional stories with more diversity? How can expanding the audience be a bad thing?
maybe you are right that John Talks isn't the best source ever, but a few of these flashy sites report it and once you get rid of all the flash etc, and maybe just maybe there is some truth to the tweets i posted that were caches and the tweets she deleted. Oh I suppose not just because you guys don't wish it to be true
Future history books will record the early 21st century as the social media era aka the era when people lost their damn minds writing on a peice of tech
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